Yalls Theory

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C1iffburton

Discussion Starter · Jun 12, 2007

what are yalls theory on the same size tires front and back? rite now i have 27x10x12s vamps on front and 27x12x12s vamps on the back of my bike, a buddy of mine claims that its better if you have the same size tire in front as in back, he runs like a 26 or 27x10x12 all around on his bike, he has the same things done to his bike as i have on my bike, we ride the swamps alot down in south west louisiana...for the most part anywhere i go he goes also and vice versa so i am trying to figure out what yall think about it, only thing is he doesnt have some boss hog tires like me on his bike so not sure if that also has something to do with any of it.......just wondering what yall all thought about that

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joecamel

· #2 · Jun 12, 2007

until you try it you'll never know. it is harder to steer with larger tires on the front. it'll rob more of your power especially in 4wd with the bigger tires up front. i don't see much need in having larger tires unless you can pull them all times no problem and have the power steering option.

how do you run with the same setup you have now compared with your buddy. that should answer your question

MAD MUDDER

· #3 · Jun 13, 2007

i always have bigger tires in the rear, i think it looks better. it dosent matter if you have bigger tires in the rear, but if you have bigger tires in the front you will have more strain on everything and it will also be harder to steer.
-Aaron

Grtwhthntr

· #4 · Jun 13, 2007

I run 27-10-12 front and 27-12-12 rear. My theory is that you will have a wider footprint for the rear tire to bite in after the front has made a rut, plus it does look better IMO.

Yooperforeman

· #5 · Jun 13, 2007

I prefer the same size on the front and rear.(10 inches wide).I wouldn't suggest 12" wide on the front.From experience I know a narrow tire does better in the snow.It uses less power to push a narrow tire through and if the rear tire is the same size then it doesn't have to "break" a new rut,It just follows in the same rut as the front tire.Does that make sense? That's my thoughts anyways.

C1iffburton

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 13, 2007

yea makes since to me but the places that i ride are some sloppy stuff, they may not be deep water or deep mud but its very thick sticky stuff, and my backtires being wider give me just enough grab whereas all the other guys have to rock and jump to get through

Brian Latiolais

· #7 · Jun 13, 2007

I don't quite know what there saying,but i'll tell you mine.I have the same size tire on my front as I have in my rear.But hears the catch.My front tire is wider,so in the mud my front tire will move the mud out of the way,so my back tire will grip the bottom and keep me moving.Hears a sketch....

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{{{{ { front Back
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As you see,the Front is pushing the mud out,while the back grabs the bottomof the rut,and keeps the bike moving.

C1iffburton

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 13, 2007

is that cuz the front has a different offset or something like that, or is it cuz the front has that differenet suspension instead of that straight axle in the back........and i understand what ur saying, i guess ill never know until i ride a bike that is setup like that...where do u ride at brian latiolais? i am like an hour and a half drive from breaux bridge, we should meet up and ride together sometime

Brian Latiolais

· #9 · Jun 13, 2007

I live in Breaux Bridge,LA.We ride mostly in the ditches around my house.

Yooperforeman

· #10 · Jun 13, 2007

QUOTE ("Brian Latiolais":1yg0uc07)

I don't quite know what there saying,but i'll tell you mine.I have the same size tire on my front as I have in my rear.But hears the catch.My front tire is wider,so in the mud my front tire will move the mud out of the way,so my back tire will grip the bottom and keep me moving.Hears a sketch....

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{{{{ { front Back
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As you see,the Front is pushing the mud out,while the back grabs the bottomof the rut,and keeps the bike moving.

That's exactly what I was trying to say! Thanks!

H4

· #11 · Jun 13, 2007

My theory on tires. The larger the contact patch, the greater the traction and floatation. I would run the largest and widest tires that both the bike and myself could manage comfortably. In deep snow and bog you want to stay on top. I run 12's on the rear because thats the widest I could find available. 10's on the front because I was not sure how much of a neg effect a larger tire would have on steering effort or clearance issues. Type of tire makes a difference. I now think my bike could handle a 12" tire on the front with a rounded profile like the Super Lights but not the more square profile of a 12" Bearclaw for example. IMO bigger is better if you got the power to turn them.

justinwilliamskx

· #12 · Jun 14, 2007

you can run the same size all the way around the reason for me haveing 10s in the front is turning clearence i would need some spacers to reduce rub and that means more stress on alrey pretty stressed parts plus less mass for the axles to have spin up so less breakage change tho not much

Brian Latiolais

· #13 · Jun 14, 2007

Yeah,that's for snow,aren't we talking about mud????Yea,for snow you want to stay on top,but for us guys that like ruts,thats the way you want to go.

H4

· #14 · Jun 14, 2007

QUOTE ("Brian Latiolais":3kpu1uef)

Yeah,that's for snow,aren't we talking about mud????Yea,for snow you want to stay on top,but for us guys that like ruts,thats the way you want to go.

Most of the ruts we ride in are pretty dry. (skidder trails) As for mud, once we break thru or tear up the bog too much there's no telling how deep you'll have to go to find bottom. That's why around here it's usually better to try to get as much floatation as possible. Just shows the importance of setting up your bike for your riding stlye and conditions.

Brian Latiolais

· #15 · Jun 15, 2007

QUOTE ("H4":av1henp6)

QUOTE ("Brian Latiolais":av1henp6)

Yeah,that's for snow,aren't we talking about mud????Yea,for snow you want to stay on top,but for us guys that like ruts,thats the way you want to go.

Most of the ruts we ride in are pretty dry. (skidder trails) As for mud, once we break thru or tear up the bog too much there's no telling how deep you'll have to go to find bottom. That's why around here it's usually better to try to get as much floatation as possible. Just shows the importance of setting up your bike for your riding stlye and conditions.[/quote]I could make it through that rut.Withy my stock tires on I could almost make it through a rut that I bottomed out in 3 ft deep mud in the canal behind my house.

freek589

· #16 · Jun 21, 2007

go big or go home....thats the way i look at it. i'm runnin 27x12 at all four corners on my foreman. it turns the $hi^ out of em. they float better and you have a greater amount of contact with mud/water/rocks/whatever your ridin.

C1iffburton

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 22, 2007

what are these fender kits that i keep seeing everyone with in there sigs...what is it and what does it do? and how much did you have to trim off ur fenders to get those 12s on all 4 corners? do they rub up front or out back any? did u use spacers on the front end? i rub my back fenders right now with 27x12x12 vampires, not sure how outlaws would do back there

freek589

· #18 · Jun 22, 2007

fender kits eliminate the fender brackets underneath the front fender wells (black bars that are connected to frame and run underneath the footpegs) they give you more clearance for bigger tires. i'm runnin 1.5" spacers in the front, if not then you rub your shocks because of the side lugs. backs fine for clearance

C1iffburton

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jun 22, 2007

how much does that kit cost, and does it relocated the bars or something? as of right now when i am leaning way over and i step in the front or in the back of my floorboard i pop those rivets out rite on the end and i rub my tire in the back when i step on the back, does it add more support to the floorboards itself?

JWJR

· #20 · Jun 22, 2007

it replaces the front supports with a piece of steel that fallows the bends of the wheel well to still give the finder support. no i wont give the floor boards anymore support. its about $150 i believe

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