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well i see he has a foreman so he doesnt plan to ever get stuck, so he will use it to get other people unstuck...i looked at it like this when i made my decisin...gorilla/venom/viper/xtreme i think all have the same stats for the most part and look exactly the same cept the lil metal badge they stick on it, now if u go to ramsey or warn i hear those are a little better but usually are at least 1.5 times more than a gorilla or whatever else...i am personally buying a gorilla2500 with 50' bluesteel rope, a mounting plate, and a few other little things for like $250...not to bad, and when ever that one goes out i will just end up getting another cheap one that will last just as long as the expensive one will

thats my opinion on the topic
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