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Dirtyrider,, look in the Rincon post.. I was asking the same question about 6 months ago. Alot of votes for the Gorilla, and Milemarker.. None seemed to have problems with deep water riding. I went and purchased the Gorilla #3000 and have had it under more that above water.. No probs yet. The Gorilla #3000 was $79 plus $26 shipping.. Good deal for a #3000.. That encludes all but the mounting plate which I already had.