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Why were the 450 Foremans considered better?Aren't the 500's basically a 450 with just a different engine and plastics?
No it's a whole different bike.

I have a 05 es and have had little problems with it. The only thing I have had do fix was the cluch needed adjusted because when they did the recall the dealer did not put it in right. It did not shift right and that was the only reason I knew someting was wrong. IMO there as good if not better than the 450's.
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