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I cant make up my mind. For sure im going with 27's but ive heard the Outlaws are VERY hard on bikes and ride very rough. They wear down the bike big time, but they pull like no other. I guess theyre a STRICTLY mud tire. The Vamps ive heard are lighter than Outlaws and pull just as good and are not as hard in the mud. I do ride trails to get to the mud and they're more like mud holes. Im just scared of getting stuck with 589 caliber tires again. THe 589's are great, just not for the mud. What do you all think?
 

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Vamps do a great job in mud. Outlaws do a great job in mud.

They are both great mud tires and are in a league of their own far away from 589's
 

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I love my vampires. I use my atv on the farm everyday, up and down the field roads. They ride pretty smooth and hold up real well. They do great in mud too. Vampires are the only tires I will ever put on our atvs.
 

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Vamps seem like the good choice for those who dont spend ALL their time in mud right?

Another question is where do you get the Vamps the cheapest? Cheapest ive found them is $86.95 and $76.95 for the 27x10 and 27x12 respectively. ~$390 shipped.
 

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outlaws

i had 28" outlaws and let me tell you i never got stuck. they do a great job but they do take a toll on your ride and you if just mud ride go with oulaws but if you trail ride and mud ride go with vamps.
 

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Yea I'm seeing that vamps are more for me. Are the vamps tough on the bike also?
 

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ALL BIG AGGRESSIVE TIRES ARE GONNA TAKE THERE TOLL ON A BIKE EVENTUALLY, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS. I HAVE NEVER RIDDEN VAMPS BUT I WOULD SAY THEY ARE GONNA BE JUST AS BAD ON YOUR BIKE AS THE LAWS ARE, YOU CAN GET OUTLAWS CHEAPER THEN VAMPS RIGHT NOW AT HL 10% + 10 ADDITIONAL % IF PRO STAFF MEMBER. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT ALSO.
 

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I got the Vamps for $370 shipped. Thats cheaper than ANY Outlaws and definately the cheapest place on the internet. Hopefully ill be real happy with these!
 

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I see a lot of Vampires (probably the most common tire down there)whenever I ride down south (Florida), like around Okeechobee. They seem to do well in that type of mud.
 

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Hey guys i got one more question. I got my order on hold for this! Im going Vamps 27x10x12 and 27x12x12. Seeing as the Vampire 27x10's run small, should i go 27x12 all the way around? What are some cons to this setup? I am running a Perfex lift kit and HL lift springs. Im also on my stock rubi wheels. Would i have to go with a 1" spacer?
 

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What about 27" Bi/Tri-Claws. I love them and they ride great. They have held up awesome for me. Have a set that will sell for $300. plus shipping.
I was told that Vamps and Claws perform about the same, advantage going to Claws. Only tire in size class to beat Claws were the Laws.
 

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QUOTE ("MiamiE":ldtpu3yo)
Hey guys i got one more question. I got my order on hold for this! Im going Vamps 27x10x12 and 27x12x12. Seeing as the Vampire 27x10's run small, should i go 27x12 all the way around? What are some cons to this setup? I am running a Perfex lift kit and HL lift springs. Im also on my stock rubi wheels. Would i have to go with a 1" spacer?
im running 27vamps 28edls front i play in the mud alot no problems no laws for me
 

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Eric, thanks for the offer, but ive heard the opposite. Ive heard Outlaws, Vamps, then the Bi/Tri's. Its all up to personal preference i guess. Im pretty much sold on the Vamps and for $370 shipped. Theyre a good deal. Just need to decide on the size!
 

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I would do Dano's setup.

27's in the rear and 28's in the front.

The EDLS run smaller. Run those with 2 psi and put 5-7 in the rears of your 27's and they should measure out the same. That would be one heck of a setup and ive seen it in person (Dano rips some crap up.)
 

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Id rather stay with the same tire on all 4 corners. Dont know exactly why but they EDL's dont suit my style of riding. I do trails also but mostly mud and can see the EDL's being rough. Are 27x12's bad for the front?
 

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What does EDL's stand for?
 

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QUOTE ("Bexxter":38pxy42b)
What does EDL's stand for?

Extra Deep Lug - They have a 2.5 in lug. They will pull great, but you have to use throttle control, or you will dig yourself down or even break something.

As far as amps running small. I thinck they are small in heighth not width. If you look at Dano's tires the tire carcasses look to be the same heighth and only the tread depth is different. His combo will hold its own w/ any combo out there.
 
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