This is probably a dumb question, but I know nothing about suburban estates. I do own land in the Holopaw riding area (end of holopaw groves blvd.) but haven't been out there in a long time, is this suburban estates in any way connected to the holopaw riding area? I noticed in the first post that it involved "groves rd" and 441, so it sounds like your either talking about holopaw riding area or somewhere very close. Also, where is this information that was quoted about the changes posted originally? Sort of funny if suburban estates is the same place that I know of as just the holopaw riding area, considering I have owned land there for almost a year and never heard it called that. Thanks for any information.