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FOOD FOR THOUGHT...Vaughn had his HMF pipe for a short while and one of the rivets had become loose. Vaughn then drilled the weak rivet out and tried to replace the rivet. When the whole pipe dissasembled itself on the work bench...the damage was done. We then found out that HMF would have paid for shipping and replaced the pipe for free. Well...Hind site is 20/20. Just my 2 cents..