well, the only times i've used the winch on my rubi was on my dad's '95 kingquad 300. we got it stuck in snow on purpose so we could test the winch. put the parking brake on on the rubi and winched it about half way out, then the rubi was pulling forward. so i got on and put her in reverse and pulled the kingquad right out. the onther time is a buried my kawasaki bayou in snow and hooked up the winch, same thing. pulled it half way, then put it in reverse and all the way. its the first quad me or my dad have ever had with a winch, and it is awesome! i think either a foreman or a rubi, you cant go wrong.