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the foreman will handle the mud better but the rincon is by far the best trail machine, it just depend on how deep the mud is and how big of a tire you want to run.
 

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the rincon will not turn a 27" tire with ease when it is bone stock, my buddy has a 650 with 26" Mudlites and it has a hard time turning them in thick mud and bog, my foreman has 27"s and i can turn them no problem in anything.
 

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i know when my buddy bought the bike the honda dealer even told us that they have had several people complain about not being able to spin the tires in thick mud, maybe the mud in alberta is thicker than where you guys are.
 

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thats wierd must of just been a few bikes that can't do it then, i know the 680 doesn't have a problem so maybe the carb is off a bit, anyways he ordered a dynatek module for it an hmf pipe plus the k&n filter and dyno jet kit, he already has the module jet kit and filter in it and it made a **** of a difference, he can almost cat walk in second gear of the line, i think once he puts the pipe on it it shouldn't have a problem.
 

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i am going to brule. hope its nice that weekend
 

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never been to cadomin but i hear it is good riding, lots of trails, might try there july long weekend.
 

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QUOTE ("mac102004":36wwq6sn)
QUOTE ("TChonda":36wwq6sn)
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject:
Yeah theres something wrong with it, I can almost cat walk it in 3rd, 2nd is too easy. I smoke the tires on pavement without touching the brake etc. lol



you don't have a rincon, you have a 800 outlander, rincons don't have the power to do anything your saying bone stock, prove it and lets see a vid, i work at a honda dealer and you have to stand on the back rack of a fi rincon to wheelie easy, and if your standing on the rack it doesn't count as a wheelie either thats for *****'s that don't know how to ride
Hey buddy, read my sig. who said mine is bone stock? And I don't stand on the back rack either.[/quote][/quote]

my buddy doesn't stand on his back rack either, stock he could catwalk it sitting on the seat, the bike just wouldn't turn the tires in the thick mud, but with mods he has done so far it doesn't seem to have much of a problem now, thats why i buy honda and add what i need, because it still doesn't affect the reliability.
 

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so how many belts did the arctic crap and kawi burn up on that ride?
 

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is that a 750 brute? How does it go against your rincon?
 

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i like the look of the machine but i hear they have alot of problems, my buddy knows a guy that has one, he had to replace tierod ends put tire spacers in the back so that his 26" mudlites wouldn't rub on the gas tank, and he had to put pieces of tire tube on the inside of his fenders to stop the water from hitting the engine and stalling it, not to mention he has gone through a couple of belts with very few miles. i think i will stick with my honda, to me the extra power is not worth the hassle.
 

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he must have aftermarket rims that are offset for it, i know buddies 26"s rub for sure.
 

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my buddy has ran into everything you can imagine with his rincon and never had a problem with his A-arms.
 

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if theres one thing i learned about honda's it would be to never question the structural integrity of the machine.
 
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