not sure how they are but i just scored a powertech exhaust for 99$ from HL.It is for a foreman 400/450 but i have a handy tig welder if i need to modify it to fit my Rancher.any of you guys ever hear them? I'd imagine it's not quiet.they do have more in stock too if any of you are interested.it's a T-304 stainless slip on and they normally go for 250+ i think.