well finally after waiting almost 2 weeks i got my tires and i have to say they are awesome !!! i bough them at outdoorsmanatv.com for 376.00 shipped to my door . i went saturday to play and i was not disapointed at all .. my bottom end power was still there and it put excellent thru the holes . anyone having second thoughts on these tires shouldnt because im really surprised about how well they do on the trails , rocks and especially MUD !!! my friend rob has a set of 28 zillas and we compared them side by side and the only difference was maybe a 1/4 inch in height .. thumbs up these titres will fool you and a great budget buy !!!