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Did anyone see whats new for Honda ATV for 2008? Ha Ha! Nothing. Except for the fact that someone in the company had a brain fart and decided to had white to the line up. I would like to know who thought this was a good idea. Anyway, no efi, irs,diff loc for an already out dated Rubicon. Way to go Honda. Another year come and gone and no change. I guess it's time to buy a more competive machine.

I anyone is interested on seeing this sector of this company sink, go to WWW.hondanews.com
 

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i am really suprized at this, i thought honda would do atleast something like a locker. i hate to say it but honda really is falling behind. i know that SOME of the hondas are really tough but they need to drop the price of get the ball rolling. i dont think the white is half bad, the white bumper has to go though.
-Aaron
 

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Their line of thinking is probably something along the lines of "don't fix what isn't broken", and "everything you add to an ATV is just something else that may break", sort of like an old man lol. However, I do not think Honda is going to "sink" any time soon, since they continue to outsell any other brand by a huge margin.

And kybmu, you have stated several times that it is time for you to get an atv from another manufacturer. Why haven't you done it yet? Then you can find all the flaws with whatever you own next instead of our Hondas
 

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i am really suprized at this, i thought honda would do atleast something like a locker. i hate to say it but honda really is falling behind. i know that SOME of the hondas are really tough but they need to drop the price of get the ball rolling. i dont think the white is half bad, the white bumper has to go though.
-Aaron
The fact is I'm not surprized at all. They have no interest of keeping with the computation. They are running on their reputation, their name a wing and a prayer. All of this and rolling in the money because they don't have the cost of other manufacture that are trying to build a new machine that can compete. We keep on buy these machines knowing full and well that they aren't near has good in performance has the other manufacture, but buying for the name.
 

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kybmu, while you are looking to buy a quad with all the equipment you want, why not find a forum that agrees with you too.

Some of us buy Honda for the same reason you give for not liking them. Me, I like the stability of the Foreman. Most of my riding is mountainous woods, more off camber than mud. So I don't need a locker or high ground clearance. Just a simple machine that sticks to the trail and will get me there and back with no problems.
 

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kybmu, while you are looking to buy a quad with all the equipment you want, why not find a forum that agrees with you too.

Some of us buy Honda for the same reason you give for not liking them. Me, I like the stability of the Foreman. Most of my riding is mountainous woods, more off camber than mud. So I don't need a locker or high ground clearance. Just a simple machine that sticks to the trail and will get me there and back with no problems.
Let me tell you something Grumpy. SRA work well on a farm. That same ridge axle isn't a help in off camber, rock crawling or mountain woods. If you have uneven surfaces, the SRA becomes off balanced because the tire that isn't on a solid surface has to wait for the machine to tilt so the machine to become stable again. Will that's great,but if that side is much lower the machine may have to tilt a long way before it reaches solid ground again. This can and has lead to roll overs. IRS is the machine best fitted for rock crawing. If the machine has a sure footing on one side, and a much lower surface on the other side, the IRS machine will extend full travel so the tire will reach without the unit tipping. I saw this on the weekend. The Grizzlly I was with had much better climbing ability compared to my Rubicon. My front end climb over tree roots and rocks easy, but for the back to pull over, their became several situation where the machine became unstable and a lot more tippy situations. That Grizzly just walked one tire after tthe other walking up the hills. I guess that's why Hummers are IRS. This is a fable about SRA for technical terrain. For cornering or hauling a trailer a SRA is what a guy needs, but IRS is much better for mud, comfort and technical terrain.
 

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Wow, I have a lot to say lol..

- "They have no interest of keeping with the computation." I don't know what computating anything has to do with an ATV..

- "All of this and rolling in the money because they don't have the cost of other manufacture that are trying to build a new machine that can compete." They are not just competing, they are beating their competition in sales by a huge margin.

- "That same ridge axle isn't a help in off camber, rock crawling or mountain woods. If you have uneven surfaces, the SRA becomes off balanced because the tire that isn't on a solid surface has to wait for the machine to tilt so the machine to become stable again." This just isn't true. SRA is more stable than IRS...I assume you have ridden both in off-camber situations? Because I have, and there is no question as to which is more stable in my mind.

- "IRS is the machine best fitted for rock crawing." Then why do professional rock crawlers use not only solid rear axles, but solid front axles also?

- "Let me tell you something Grumpy." Getting a little attitude, are we?

Have a nice night, kybmu. And sell your Honda. I'm sure someone on this website would buy it, and love everything about it. You can go get something with IRS, a locker, turbo rocket boosters, and whatever else you need. no offense intended in any of that, just simultaneously ruffling your feathers and getting my point across.
 

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in case you haven't noticed honda is ahead of the competition accoording to sales, when that changes then i am sure honda will change something, as for stability an irs quad has more body roll due to the softer suspension, more body roll equals less stability and makes the machine way easier to tip over.
i am sure that everybody will agree with me on that.
 

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and isnt it funny how he posted the exact same thing in the 500 forum. i think he just likes e-fighting
 

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yeah its funny how he keeps doing that, personally i would rather have my dads old honda 300 4x4 than some of these newer machines from other manufacturers, i think that was one of the toughest atv's ever built, absoulutely bullet proof
 

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arkredneck, you assume he actually does own a Rubicon. For all we know, he could just be a troll that's hating on Honda and owns something else (or nothing at all)
 
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