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Why do you change your air filter and oil and filter so much?
 

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I don't have a lot of seat time on a 450 but I have rode my buddys a few times and I would not trade him for nothing. The ride and power is way better and the seat is way nicer. The seat is bigger and to me feels softer.
I was like you, wondering what if, and I got tired of it and just went out and bought one. No matter what you wont be sorry. If its really that big of a deal just keep the 450, whats wrong with it? Do you have to got a new one?
 

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QUOTE ("wvyankee2":1vxl2nrt)
Well folks I appreciate the feedback, but I'm still confused. The 500 seems like the same design as the 450, with new skins, and the Rubicon 500 motor which is a stronger motor. The motor design and driveline are essentially the same are'nt they? Is the suspension geometry the same also? Besides the skins and motor, what is very different on the 500 vs. the 450?
Dude you have it all wrong, it don't have the rubi motor for starters! The Rubi motor is a 499cc and the 500 Foreman is a 475. And it's ALL new, it's longer, wider, and I think its taller! I'm sure others can tell you more, I have to leave for work now .
 

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Im hearing to many things going rong with them, the fram braking is a big ? to me. I have had one problem that left me in the woods. The VR went bad and it would not start. Becouse the pull start will not pull over the motor ( no deconpresion on it) had to walk out and get the Honda and jump start it. I and my wife like the Honda better the only good think about the outy is the ride. And the $$$ might be right for me to spend right now.
First I have heard of the frame breaking.
 
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