no they arent garbage. they look like mudlites sort of but the lugs are a little closer together just because everyone doesnt need 28" outlaws doesnt mean the tires we run are garbage. some of us ride trails as well as mud and need tires to do both. on a foreman i have to run tires like a mudlite in order to keep up. i ride with guys who all have brutes, prarie 700's, rincons, and kingquads and they love to ride fast. I have problems keepin up with my mudlites. If i ran a heavier tire they'd have to wait up for me.