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I'm interested buying a brand new Rubicon 2007. I would like to know how slow it is actually geared on LO 1st gear compared to the Foreman with the conventionnal tranny.

I would like to get an input from somebody who works those machine hard or ever used to have another quad like Big Bear or so.

The slowest one I've seen was an old Suzuki 300 with HI, LO, and SUPER-LO. The yamaha are pretty geared slow too. Actually, my father has a Bombardier Traxter 500cc and it's a working horse on LO gear.

I'm gonna be using that machine sometime to pull an heavy trailer climbing a steep mountain where slow motion is required due to the rough trail condition. I had bad experience with an old 86 Kawa geared to high to perform the job SAFELY.

Any input will be appreciated.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Rubicon gets 5 "speeds" in LO and 5 "speed" in HI. ?
 

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for serious work, get the foreman, its air-cooled so you wont have to worry about overheating. just better preformance all round. the Foreman is a work horse the rubi is more of a trail machine..

just my $0.02
 

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if you are going to use it for mostly work i would go with the foreman 500, since you are going to be hauling big loads. i had a 03 rubicon and i had it set up for mud riding but i also did alot of work with it and the tranny went out. as many people on her already know i am not a fan of the honda auto trannys at all, they are just too risky. if something goes wrong, more than likley the whole thing is going to go out. to answer your question, i think they are geared good for pulling things, while doing hay we would sometimes use my rubicon to pull it. the trailer will hold about 70 bales that weigh around 50lbs each. in low first gear it would pull it fine in the hay feilds. i know you may be thinking that is alot of weight but it would pull it. the reason the tranny went out is because the oil pump failed, the newer rubicons have the updated oil pumps so you should be ok there. yes the rubicon has five low speeds and five high speeds.
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jobadluck, if you want an all around performer I dont think you can do much better than the rubicon, true enough, i dont have that many miles on mine but I know people that do. I have had a 450 foreman and I loved the machine, but after climbing on one after owning the ruby, it felt way outdated. the rubicon is (in my opinion) a great trail rider and if I put the tranny in low auto when i decend very steep hills it creeps slower than the 450 in superlow 1st it seems like the steeper it is the more it slows, I love it. and if you wish to change gears then you can do that smoother than anything out there. for pure hard work day in and out to me a geared machine would be the proven performer but the rubicon does have a liquid cooled engine, better for hard slow pulling so its a personal choice. just remember when working the rubicon use low and it will perform a lot better. oh and nothing out there now is as low geared as the old suzukis you mentioned with the three speed sub tranny.
 

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I have worked my Ruby pretty hard. I live on a farm and it pulls, hauls, and drags almost everytime it gets started. Granted the Foreman is air cooled, but my ruby has never overheated. It also moves my bass boat and pop up camper around the barn when it needs moved. I pull loads of feed and I can pull 8 square bales of hay up to the top of the ridge (which is pretty steep) without pulling down the engine in low 2nd, it spins a litte going up sometimes in 4x4, but never boggs down or stops moving. It gets trail ridden with my friends in mud and over rocks. I love it.

Just my experience
 

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There is no slip in the Ruby tranny. By far the most awesome auto out there. I've had them both, Foreman 500 has a better low. If you're concerned about pulling safely than go with a 500ES, easy shifting for the trails but still offers a great low.
 

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Eric's suggestion is very good, and I'll agree that I prefer the transmission in the Rubicon to any transmission out there. I know that one guy doesn't like it, but it's the main reason I bought my Rubicon. I didn't like the CVT transmissions, and I wanted something automatic because 80% of my riding is trail riding (and they tend to throw more mud )
 

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**One complaint with the transmission: if I run off into a deep/sticky mudhole at a high speed, it tends to take a while to shift down and bring the rpm's back up. But then again, I have 26" mud lites, which probably makes it a little worse. But once the transmission has adjusted for slowing down suddenly and entering mud, it pulls hard
 

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Take the RUBI man.that quad is all around use.trail,mud,sand.just ride it.its gud to run a heavy motor oil.20w50.older rubi like 04 and down had a couple flaws in tranny.the new ones work killer.we got 3 2006 rubies with 2500kms to3000kms and never had a sniff of problems.they work just toooooo gud.90% mud riding ..;.belt boys stay home.im not in the mood of pulling you back
 

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I'm not realy a mud driver. I'll pull an heavy trailer up a steep hill. But not the trottle all the way in to get her done. I'll need to go slowly because the trail is pretty rough, and while I'm going slowly, I need a good power response to get thought slippery area. I know that the Foreman is the way to go in that case, but I was wondering if the Rubicon will do that job as well.

I used to have an old kawa 5 speeds with chains on tire, but geared way to high. Everytime I slowed down climbing that steep hill with my trailer, I had a hard time starting back. Sometime we needed to be 2 quads to pull it, while my father's bombardier traxter 500 was doing to job alone, cause he was geared lot slower than me.

This is what I'm concerned with. That will be the main use of this quad. The foreman is probably the way to go, but I wanted to get your inputs because I like the idea of that tranny when I will be doing "tourist" driving.
 

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Actually, if the Bombardier was geared low enough for you, either of these will be more than enough for what you need. I've ridden two Bombardier utility ATV's, and they both seemed to be geared WAY higher than my Rubicon is when it's in low, and still higher than my rubicon is when it's in Drive.
 

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I'm interested buying a brand new Rubicon 2007. I would like to know how slow it is actually geared on LO 1st gear compared to the Foreman with the conventionnal tranny.

I would like to get an input from somebody who works those machine hard or ever used to have another quad like Big Bear or so.

The slowest one I've seen was an old Suzuki 300 with HI, LO, and SUPER-LO. The yamaha are pretty geared slow too. Actually, my father has a Bombardier Traxter 500cc and it's a working horse on LO gear.

I'm gonna be using that machine sometime to pull an heavy trailer climbing a steep mountain where slow motion is required due to the rough trail condition. I had bad experience with an old 86 Kawa geared to high to perform the job SAFELY.

Any input will be appreciated.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Rubicon gets 5 "speeds" in LO and
5 "speed" in HI. ?
It's geared lower than the 420 rancher. I can't get any faster than 11 km/h on the Rubicon. The 420 I got about 10 Mph. (About 16 km/h).

Not sure about the Foreman.
 

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Hello I pull two 1200lb round bales on a trailer behind my rubi and that is also spinning 26" mudlites. I love my rubicon would not trade it for anything, well after I put the disc brake conversion kits on it!!
 

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Rubicon has fantastic engine braking if this is your question, better that anything I have ridden; this includes the Yamaha auto which has awesome engine braking too.
 
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