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Hey everyone,
I am looking at a Warn 3000RT winch or a set of 26" Kenda Executioners? I mainly use my 4-wheeler for working with my Dad cut firewood up and cutting and pulling limbs around my two acres of yard and 3 acres of woods. I really want the tires, but I think a winch would make up for where these stock tires are failing me. I do trail ride alittle also. I have the money for one or the other but not both at this time. What I am asking is what ya'll have eexperienced and what I should do? I really am leaning towards the winch, but before I made up my mind I figured I would enlist ya'lls experience and opinions. I am set on the Warn 3000 and the tires though. I would like feed back on the different models of the Warn 3000 though if you have any. Thanks in advance for any and all advice. Thanks again to YooperForeman and MadMudder for ya'lls help with the Executioners.
 

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I say get the tires and a gorilla winch. You can pick one up for 100 bucks on ebay. Then when your new tires get you stuck you can pull yourself out. If you have to have a Warn get it first, so when you get it stuck with the stockers you can get yourself out.
 

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I'd say get the Executioners,I've had a winch for almost a year now and I haven't needed it yet.If you get stuck I'm sure you can find a friend to help you out.The tires will make a huge diference,you only need the winch if you're going in some really deep mud.Even a hand operated come-a-long is a great winch and they're cheap(around $50)
 

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Go for the tires! The improvement over stock is hard to appreciate untill you actually upgrade. Like the guys said, you can pick up a cheap winch or come-along and rely on friends to help when you get stuck till you can afford a Warn if that's what you want.
You'll benefit from the tires EVERY time you ride.
BTW I've got 2 Champion winches mounted for under $120.00 and have not had a problem in 2 years of use.
 

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Listen to Big_daddy on this one! I agree with him completely. Get a Gorilla Winch of Ebay for like $140 with shipping and the mounting plate! Then get a set of tires, if you shop around you can get a good deal under $300 for a great set of tires, especially if you are going to say with 25" tires!
 

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To me its about peace of mind a winch offers, If it where me get the hand operated winch and the new tires. That way if you ever have to use the Manuel winch you will appreciate your warn when you get it.


Here is a pick of the manuel winch that can be moved from the back to the front in just a few seconds,
 

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if not a Gorilla then a mile marker winch and get the tires!

warn's are nice but not nearly worth the money
 

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I agree get tires to get you into the mess, then once your in and stuck then you got a reason for getting the winch
 

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I think it depends on if you ride by yourself alot or with other people. I always ride with friends so I bought tires first and bring a rope with me.
 

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1. get em both
2. get winch- it helps ALOT (as long as there is a tree or someone else around)
3. tires
 

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Winch first!
 

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QUOTE ("Yooperforeman":3v5q7sd3)
I'd say get the Executioners,I've had a winch for almost a year now and I haven't needed it yet.If you get stuck I'm sure you can find a friend to help you out.The tires will make a huge diference,you only need the winch if you're going in some really deep mud.Even a hand operated come-a-long is a great winch and they're cheap(around $50)

The very first time I went riding after getting new tires and my gorilla winch I went and found the biggest mud hole I could find and gave it ****. The winch paid for it's self 5.5 sec later!!! At the time I was the only 4x4 in the group.

After you get a winch brianlich get a good tow strap and a tree saver! Be kind to trees you might need it again sometime!
 

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Thanks for all the advice. I am leaning toward (a) winch. How good are the Gorilla and Venom winches? I really believe on longevity(spelling class was a long time ago). That's why I went with a Honda. I want a winch that will last as long as my Honda. It (the winch) won't be abused with water and mud, but will be tested to the MAX on pulling logs and even small stumps. I don't want the motor burning out after six months. Money is not the issue with either. I want the Warn because of the limited lifetime warranty with the 3000lb models. Has anyone had theirs (Gorilla) for a couple of years with some quite frequent hard pulls (logs, trucks), NOT a stuck fourwheeler. I know, I know, a half-mired (tires to the axles) will make the vehicle twice a much, but on the 500, that only 1000 pounds with no one on it. Logs on the other hand, weigh more and do not have wheels to help it roll which by the way help. Anyway, I priced the tires at my local shop, atvoutfitters.com, and another website and both with shipping and getting them installed will be about 370 and the winch will be $369 plus $52 for the bracket. I will install it myself. So the winch is alittle more. It's worth it. I know the Warn will last for what I am using it for. Again, some feedback on the Gorilla's and other cheap money winches. Also, give me some failures with any Warn 3000 or Gorilla 3000 or the others anyone may have had with a story of how said winch was treated(abused) and what was happening when it broke? Thanks again. I hope I'm not asking too much, but this is a forum and I think more others will learn also. I'll post some pics when I make my decision. Keep'em coming though. I will tell ya'll what my decision is.
 

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Thanks for all the advice. I am leaning toward (a) winch. How good are the Gorilla and Venom winches? I really believe on longevity(spelling class was a long time ago). That's why I went with a Honda. I want a winch that will last as long as my Honda. It (the winch) won't be abused with water and mud, but will be tested to the MAX on pulling logs and even small stumps. I don't want the motor burning out after six months. Money is not the issue with either. I want the Warn because of the limited lifetime warranty with the 3000lb models. Has anyone had theirs (Gorilla) for a couple of years with some quite frequent hard pulls (logs, trucks), NOT a stuck fourwheeler. I know, I know, a half-mired (tires to the axles) will make the vehicle twice a much, but on the 500, that only 1000 pounds with no one on it. Logs on the other hand, weigh more and do not have wheels to help it roll which by the way help. Anyway, I priced the tires at my local shop, atvoutfitters.com, and another website and both with shipping and getting them installed will be about 370 and the winch will be $369 plus $52 for the bracket. I will install it myself. So the winch is alittle more. It's worth it. I know the Warn will last for what I am using it for. Again, some feedback on the Gorilla's and other cheap money winches. Also, give me some failures with any Warn 3000 or Gorilla 3000 or the others anyone may have had with a story of how said winch was treated(abused) and what was happening when it broke? Thanks again. I hope I'm not asking too much, but this is a forum and I think more others will learn also. I'll post some pics when I make my decision. Keep'em coming though. I will tell ya'll what my decision is.
 

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Whatever winch you choose there are a few things to keep in mind if you want it to last as long as possible. Take Big Daddy's advise on the strap and carry a good pair of gloves. Wrapping a winch cable around anything will ruin it in a hurry.
A snatch block will double the capacity of the winch and also reduce the stress on your bike by distributing it to 2 different points on the bike. It also requires you to pay out twice the cable on each pull and the power of the winch increases as cable wraps on the drum decrease. Less strain means longer life. Just be sure to keep at least 1 wrap on the drum.
It's a good idea to check the cable and unwind and respool evenly as necessary, especially after extreme angle pulls to avoid damage from cable stacking. You said it won't see much water or mud and that will probably make the biggest difference in the life of the winch.
Looking forward to the pics.
 

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Yeah I will be buying the accessory bag to go with it. I know a good bit about winching from the military. Gloves, snatch block, and something to throw on the cable, in case is snaps, is a must at any time. I am wanting that new 3000XT model with the wireless remote and syn. rope, but its out of my price range right now. I will add those two items at a later date. I going to order my from allterrainonline.com . It gonna cost $369 to my door. Thats not bad for a Warn 3000RT.
 
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