I was at the shop the other day and i started looking at the brute force 650 vs the foreman in terms of ground clearance and did soem measuring myself and the foreman had more. I then looked at the Kawasaki web site and they advertise 9.0" but that is at the center of the axle and only 7.3" overall clearance. It's just a matter of smoke and mirrors, the SRA bikes all have about the same amount of ground clearance. Hope this helps.