no bike will turn them stock in mud,most on belt systems will just burn a belt or murder axles,on Honda's we are just going to murder axles.....What bike without MANY MODS can turn them? **** when you buy those tires you might as well get a clutch kit, gear reduction, stroker kit, Gorilla Axles, Pipe, Jet Kit, and possible some N20 to really turn them! I wounder how heavy they are. I would like to have a set in 27' tall depending on the weight. They lool mean as ****! I love the way they look. They make the Outlaw's look like a chump. Very cool looking!