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The clutch update has nothing to do w/ the electric shift. If your ES isn't working, no clutch update or adjustment in the world will fix it. The clutch is mechanical, ES is electrical.

 

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QUOTE ("big_daddy_bigfoot":3pj1ew3a)

Let's see, the es shifts the gears and the clutch lets you shift gears. Why can't the clutch be the problem? I do know that I have rode S models and when stoped sometimes it wont go into gear right and you have to roll it up or back to get it into gear. I don't know what it is but mine did not do it AS bad today. I don't see why it won't shift up going up hills (not big ones).

I didn't say the clutch couldn't be the problem, I said the clutch update has no affect on the ES. Your right that the clutch is part of shifting the machine. But the part that gets replaced in the clutch update is the plate that the weights are attached to. If the part is not replaced, it could wear prematurely over a long period of time along w/ other clutch parts. It will not be the cause of a no-shift condition like big_daddy_lightfoot is talking about in the first post of this thread.

 

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QUOTE ("big_daddy_bigfoot":25rfhbx4)

big_daddy_lightfoot??

Sorry man, don't know what I was thinking about when I was typing that. So much for proofreading my posts before I submit them.

 

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QUOTE ("TexasForeman":1gmuqa4z)

Calling all Honda Mechanics out there...I have a 05 Foreman 500es that I just had serviced for the first time at about 175 miles. I waited because I got the recall about the tie rod ends, but my dealer did not have parts in yet. Anyway in the meantime, I get the clutch update. Long story made short is I had the first service, Oil change, valves adjusted, clutch updated and tie rod ends completed all at once. This was about 2 weeks ago. I had never had one single problem at all with anything prior to this service. I went riding this weekend, put on about 110 Arkansas Trail Miles and had problems shifting. Just about every time I tried to upshift out of reverse, it would not go into neutral. Even with rocking the machine some, it was still hard to get out of reverse. The bike did not even make any sound like it was trying to go into neutral. I just kept trying and all of the sudden it would go. A couple of times, it seemed a little harder to get into 1st from neutral, but not that big of a deal. The getting out of reverse problem really burned me up, knowing that I had never had that problem before and I also just had it worked on. I am not saying that my dealer screwed it up. I'm just wanting to know if there are some adjustments that can be or that need to be made because of the clutch update or is there a break-in period after the modification? I have also read a few things about a sensor that may need to be cleaned. Is that a difficult task or a procedure that I can do?

It's possible the clutch didn't get adjusted correctly or not at all. Something to check next time it doesn't shift w/ the ES, try shifting w/ the manual shifter in the tool kit. If it shifts, then its electrical. If it doesn't, its mechanical, and possibly could be related to the clutch update, maybe, maybe not.

 

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QUOTE ("big_daddy_bigfoot":4oogd87a)

QUOTE ("honda_brp_tech":4oogd87a)

QUOTE ("big_daddy_bigfoot":4oogd87a)

big_daddy_lightfoot??

Sorry man, don't know what I was thinking about when I was typing that. So much for proofreading my posts before I submit them.[/quote]

I just like giving you a hard time![/quote]

I know and I deserved it.

 

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Honda supplies every ES machine w/ a shift lever that you put on the shift shaft. You basically then shift just like a standard S model, except its not meant to be permanent or shifted w/ your foot. Use your hand and shift the tranny into gear. If you get a situation where the ES won't shift the machine, put the manual lever on and if it shifts, your problem is electrical. The owners manual can explain this better than I can here, and I can explain it a lot better to a customer when pre-delivering their new machine if they can see what I'm trying to tell them.