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Hi Gang,

Seriously considering a clutch kit for my Foreman and have a few questions for the more experianced. Thinking of taking the "chicken route" and letting the dealer install it. Especially after pricing the Clutch tool and having the added insurance of them being responsible if I have any problems later and/or any warranty issues.

#1- What seems to be the going rate for a dealer to install this?

#2- Is there an difference in the HL kit vs the EPI kit other than the gasket included with the HL kit?

#3- Any downsides to the kit like not being able to have the option of taking off slowly and smoothly like stock after the install?


Thanks in advance for your help!

Dave
 

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I have no ideal on the prices, I would guess around 3 hrs labor. The only thing you will notice with the kit is the 500 rpm delay, which is what it is supose to do. After a little while you will not even notice it being there.

The one that HL sell's is the EPI kit. As far as I know there is not other kit available. The centrif clutch does not have to be pulled to install the springs. It just makes it alittle easier when it is out. All you have to do is stand the bike up on end, make sure it is clean first. pull the clutch cover off and stuff a few rags around the clutches to keep from dropping anything in the engine. remove the e-clips and plate on the centrif clutch. using a spring puller and needle nose plires to remove and install the new ones. I'm not going to lie and say it's an easy job, the new stiffer springs can be a pain to install sometimes.
 

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Thank you very much for your advise. I have noticed your advise here is always very good.

I checked with the dealer and they quoted $220ish for doing the install and based that on the Honda book time for replacing a clutch. Since the clutch tool itself was quoted at $125 I figured it was almost a no brainer to let them do it.

I am fully capable of doing the install with many, many years of mechanical experiance, I am just pushed for time with so many work related projects and wanted to take the "easy" way!

Thanks again,

Dave
 

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QUOTE ("Dirty4man":4ucf92we)
The only thing you will notice with the kit is the 500 rpm delay, which is what it is supose to do. After a little while you will not even notice it being there.
BTW, in all the posts here I have seen concerning clutch kits, your comment is the best I have seen that makes me understand what the kit does. For some reason I thought it made the clutch grab sooner, with your comment I now understand it actually is the opposite and lets the engine spin up more before engaging the clutch, makes total sense..
 

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WAIT!!!!!Is that price to put in just the Clutch kit,OR is it to buy it and put it in???

What i'm trying to say is it that 220 to buy it,and put it in???
 

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WAIT!!!!!Is that price to put in just the Clutch kit,OR is it to buy it and put it in???

What i'm trying to say is it that 220 to buy it,and put it in???
Labor Only 3.5 hours at $64 per, didn't include ANY parts needed.
 

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Honestly, I would say do it yourself....It will only take yourself three hours at the most. And as dirty4man stated, the hardest is pulling the new springs.
 

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I put mine in by myself with very little knowledge. Did not need the clutch puller so that saved that $$. If you are half way mechanicly inclined, I would do it yourself. There are some good explanations on this site and the instructions are not that bad. Hey, with the money you save, you may be able to add an additional mod. Good luck.
 

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The Power Steering may cause some added grief but I say go for it. I just finished mine. I did not pull clutch off of machine. After I pulled out old springs I removed the legs and assembled new springs on bench. Slid back in place and away I went.
 

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Thanks to everyone for the advice and encouragement, I give up and am going to make the time to do it myself. Now that I think about it I have never been satisfied with anything that I had someone else do anyway.

On top of that I just finished putting 70+ miles on it on the Hatfield McCoy trails this weekend and it is time for an oil change and valve check/adjust. I had planned to do this myself and doing it all at the same time will save a little time/effort.

Parts will be ordered tomorrow!!!

Thanks again, you guys are great!

Dave
 

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If you can get just the springs I would go that way. For me at least I feel a little more at ease putting a Honda gasket back on....IMO. I think EPI sells just the springs but not sure.

Good luck.
 

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Eric,

That is my plan, EPI Kit with Honda Gasket.
 

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Eric... did you reuse the original gasket? I should have the original was a bit of a pain to scrape off and seemed to be in good condition.
 

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Anytime you take one off you should replace it with a new one. IMO!



How do you like your swamplites?
 

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Thats what I thought too.

I like them, but they do messure big.... mine are 27's but messure 28" tall. They grip good, we don't have alot of mud here, but what I have done in the mud.. they did good!
 

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NEVER USE THE SAME GASKET!
NEVER!

would u like to rebuild and engine b/c some sand got in there b/c u were too lazy to replace a gasket that "seemed to be in good condition"... dude, not smart

its such an expensive machine i dont see the reason for cutting corners to save a few bucks or hours...only to have to redo something that failed
do it right the first time
 

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I had the EPI kit installed on my bike. It was just the springs. I did purchase the gasket separate at the dealer. To have the kit installed and the valves adjusted by an independant shop was $175. I have mixed feelings about the clutch kit. I like it when mudding and hill climbing, but for putzing around the house or things that i don't want alot of throttle, i don't much care for it.
 

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....but for putzing around the house or things that i don't want alot of throttle, i don't much care for it.
That was my only concern, thank you very much for your feedback. I am now gonna wait until I get my new exhaust system on and rejetted before I make my final decision.
 
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