[olivegreenmachine]

I'm in the market for a Clutch kit and a cam. But I was wondering if there would be any difference with the clutch kit and cam combined. I know that the clutch kit engages 500 rpms higher. I have found a cam for our Foreman 500's that claim 4% more HP and 25% more torque. But anding the clutch kit is like addind a higher stall speed converter in a car and therefore requires more gas and rpm to get it moving. So I was sondering "IF" I were to add the clutch kit and the cam would there be any noticable difference in the cam in performance or nothing at all. I really leaning toward the clutch kit and the DGL combined but I'm still not 100% sure about the cam yet. Anybody have any info on this?

Rusty

 

[dirtyrider6104]

not sure but i would really like to know where you found this cam that your are talking about because i have looked every where for one

 

[foreman68]

A guy that i get some work done at said that he installed a cam in a foreman 500. He said that the customer said that it would keep up with the big dogs, it wouldn't beat them but he no longer gets left behind. His business is called wheel quick in Longwood, I believe that he has a link on Muddy Waters ATV website. He should be able to find a cam for you. hope this helps.

 

[olivegreenmachine]

Cam location

I found the cam at Dennis Kirk, my new mag came in and I was looking through it and found it. The part # is 14-8768 it is called the "Mud Buster" is sales for 179.00. I'm thinking that the cam and clutch kit should make the bike run like a champ and give it alot more bottom end torque, that is what I'm looking for.

Rusty

 

[Icywaves]

Re: Cam location

QUOTE ("olivegreenmachine":13dpzx9e)

I found the cam at Dennis Kirk, my new mag came in and I was looking through it and found it. The part # is 14-8768 it is called the "Mud Buster" is sales for 179.00. I'm thinking that the cam and clutch kit should make the bike run like a champ and give it alot more bottom end torque, that is what I'm looking for.

Rusty

I looked up that cam on Dennis kirk and found that it was for the rubicon.
Will

 

[olivegreenmachine]

I wonder "IF" it will work in the Foreman. I thought the Rubicon and the Foreman had basically the same engine jsut a different drivetrain. i wonder if Hondamachanic would know?

Rusty

 

[Coop]

i think the foreman and the rubi is different. the foreman has a 475cc air/oil cooled motor and the rubi has a 499cc liquid cooled motor.

 

[Icywaves]

They are totally different motors. Along with different Bore stroke, they the Foreman 500 (475) has 2 valves. The rubi 500 (499) has 4 valves.
I do wish it would work. Maybe if we all together bombard a company who already makes one for the 450 with email and calls they would consider develping one. I have email atleast 5 companys last week asking them to develop a stroker kit for the foreman 500 because our BBK options are so limited. Hope it works.

 

[olivegreenmachine]

QUOTE ("Icywaves":186mb83f)

They are totally different motors. Along with different Bore stroke, they the Foreman 500 (475) has 2 valves. The rubi 500 (499) has 4 valves.
I do wish it would work. Maybe if we all together bombard a company who already makes one for the 450 with email and calls they would consider develping one. I have email atleast 5 companys last week asking them to develop a stroker kit for the foreman 500 because our BBK options are so limited. Hope it works.

Man I did not know that they were that different. Now you have got me thinking. So the Rubicon has 4 valves, I wounder "IF" the head has the same bolt pattern as the Foreman 500? If the Rubicon head would bolt up to the Foreman 500 and work I know that there would be a nice HP and Torque gain as well. I'll do some research on that one. Thank for the info and what companies have you been e-mailing and calling about the Foreman 500 cam shaft?

Rusty

 

[JWJR]

like he Icywaves said the motors in the Foreman and the Rubicon are totally diffirend. The Foreman has a 475 air cooled motor. the rubicon has a 499 liquid cooled moter. plus the rubicon has the 4 valves agianst the foremans 2. so i dont think it would work.

 

[swamprat]

like he Icywaves said the motors in the Foreman and the Rubicon are totally diffirend. The Foreman has a 475 air cooled motor. the rubicon has a 499 liquid cooled moter. plus the rubicon has the 4 valves agianst the foremans 2. so i dont think it would work.

i think thats the reason why he wants to try it. if it has the same bolt pattern maybe you can get the head shaved and the block decked to match at a machine shop and be able to get more power. and also ( I don't know this to be true ) the head on the rubicon may be the reason for the extra cc's in the cylinder. [ extra valves + more space needed for the extra valves = more cc's. this is just my synopsis on the topic.

 

[olivegreenmachine]

i think thats the reason why he wants to try it. if it has the same bolt pattern maybe you can get the head shaved and the block decked to match at a machine shop and be able to get more power. and also ( I don't know this to be true ) the head on the rubicon may be the reason for the extra cc's in the cylinder. [ extra valves + more space needed for the extra valves = more cc's. this is just my synopsis on the topic.[/quote]

That is exactly what I'm saying. Reguardless of the liquid cooled differece "IF" the head will work just block off the passage and go. I'm a mechanic on the weekends and I know how most engines work. Common sence will tell you that the more air flow and adequate supply of gas will equal more power. Here is a real world comparison compare a 2V Mustang to 4V mustang=60-90 hp difference. If the head will bolt up and some machine work I think it will work.

Rusty

 

[Icywaves]

quote]
Thank for the info and what companies have you been e-mailing and calling about the Foreman 500 cam shaft?

Rusty[/quote]

I haven't emailed anybody yet about a cam. Just a stroker kit. I will probably email Webcams though. Any one interested? They have one already for just about every honda except ours.
Will

 

[dirtyrider6104]

turner cycles will build you a whole new stroker motor for 2500 bucks but as for a bbk kit we are still in waithing if someone would just come out with a cam shaft i could get it bored myself just need the cam