[dbholomey]

I am interested in buying an '07 Rincon. If you have a stock machine, or close to please respond with any problems you have encountered. I plan on only adding a winch, heated grips and 26" mud light radials and maybe a box seat to carry stuff. I ride mostly hard pack, with or without water and some muskeg. Have come across some snotty stuff and am worried that the Rincon will get stuck. I currently own an '04 450 ES with over 4000kms on it and no problems. I am leery of the tranny and wonder of there is enough torque to get through the mud. The only reason I am thinking of trading in the 450 is for the comfort level, it does get tyring to ride all day, go mostly 6-8 hours at a time.

 

[rdharper]

QUOTE ("dbholomey":coudk6op)

I am interested in buying an '07 Rincon. If you have a stock machine, or close to please respond with any problems you have encountered. I plan on only adding a winch, heated grips and 26" mud light radials and maybe a box seat to carry stuff. I ride mostly hard pack, with or without water and some muskeg. Have come across some snotty stuff and am worried that the Rincon will get stuck. I currently own an '04 450 ES with over 4000kms on it and no problems. I am leery of the tranny and wonder of there is enough torque to get through the mud. The only reason I am thinking of trading in the 450 is for the comfort level, it does get tyring to ride all day, go mostly 6-8 hours at a time.

While I don't do a lot of mud... I have little doubt it will handle well with plenty of power. As to reliabiity... all I can say is the machine builds confidence with time. And contrary to what others might say, I love the IRS.

 

[Rinconjoe]

I can tell you if you look at my myspace you will see the rincon can handle it ,of course some common since has to play in this , I run 26 in mud-lite xl and had no trouble, I have use it to pull, tow,climb.muddin.and lots of trail riding ,I travel right much to WV, TENN, KY to busco beach (Mud and swamp heaven)
www.buscobeach.com
<a href="http://www.myspace.com/rinconjoe" target="_blank">http://www.myspace.com/rinconjoe</a>
I am a member of the largest ATV club in NC :
<a href="http://www.triadtrailblazers.com/" target="_blank">http://www.triadtrailblazers.com/</a>
there are several of us who have the rincons and we all do well , yes we give the Polaris ****.
my self was some what Leary of the auto transmission ,but had held up fine and has plenty power, and yes it don't have low gear BUT STILL HAVE HAD NO TROUBLE EVEN RIDING EVEN THE MOST EXTREME TRAILS,

 

[Guest]

"The only reason I am thinking of trading in the 450 is for the comfort level, it does get tyring to ride all day, go mostly 6-8 hours at a time."

As an alternative suggestion you might want to consider the 07 Foreman with Electric Power Steering. After riding one the last few weeks it is truely amazing! When everyone else would start to get arm pump in the middle of the day I can keep crusing along steering with literally 2 fingers of one hand if I want to.

I was in a quandry when buying mine recently because I was waffleing back and forth between a new Rincon and a Foreman ES w/EPS (they were sitting side by side at the dealer). The Rincon with it's bigger more powerful motor was tempting. The IRS was also tempting until I realized I move a lot of my trailers around my property and felt the trailer hitch on the solid axle would work better than a hitch on the IRS (yes I know there are IRS lockouts, but that is a hassle). Then I noticed little things like the Foreman had a full front brush guard and the Rincon didn't, the Foreman's front and rear racks had raised grab handles which would help keep things on the rack better and the Rincon's rack where totally flat.

Then came the test drive, the lower 1st gear and the pleasure of the EPS sold me over any of the above considerations. Especially knowing I will be also be using a Plow a lot in the winter and summer(already graded and graveled a 30x60 foot area for my ToyHauler with it). So I plunck'd the cash down for the Foreman. Don't reget it then and still don't.

Don't misunderstand me, the Rincon is a Bad A$$ ride, and for just trail riding only it would be great! It just wasn't good enough for the combination of work and play that I use my ATV for.

 

[rdharper]

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":3hvp1xk8)

Then came the test drive, the lower 1st gear and the pleasure of the EPS.

Hmmm.... sometimes I wonder about non-Rincon owner comments. Must be a personal problem.

Where did you find a Rincon sans EPS?

 

[Guest]

QUOTE ("rdharper":13asc6wd)

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":13asc6wd)

Then came the test drive, the lower 1st gear and the pleasure of the EPS.

Hmmm.... sometimes I wonder about non-Rincon owner comments. Must be a personal problem.

Where did you find a Rincon sans EPS?[/quote]


Maybe you misunderstood my sentence, try reading it again. The EPS was on the Foreman.... reading Must be a personal problem for you

 

[rdharper]

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":20imkt22)

QUOTE ("rdharper":20imkt22)

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":20imkt22)

Then came the test drive, the lower 1st gear and the pleasure of the EPS.

Hmmm.... sometimes I wonder about non-Rincon owner comments. Must be a personal problem.

Where did you find a Rincon sans EPS?[/quote]


Maybe you misunderstood my sentence, try reading it again. The EPS was on the Foreman.... reading Must be a personal problem for you [/quote]

I did mean my personal problem. Otoh, I did understand your sentence. Or I think I did. You like the EPS on the Foreman, which implies to me that there was none on the Rincon you tested. No?

 

[Guest]

QUOTE

I did mean my personal problem. Otoh, I did understand your sentence. Or I think I did. You like the EPS on the Foreman, which implies to me that there was none on the Rincon you tested. No?

Correct, the Rincon did not have EPS, it is my understanding only the 07-08 Foreman has EPS...

Of course Honda could have been sneaky and slipped the new ElectricPowerSteering on the Rincons without telling anyone... your expert thoughts on this are welcome???

 

[rdharper]

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":1hic09jl)

QUOTE

I did mean my personal problem. Otoh, I did understand your sentence. Or I think I did. You like the EPS on the Foreman, which implies to me that there was none on the Rincon you tested. No?

Correct, the Rincon did not have EPS, it is my understanding only the 07-08 Foreman has EPS...

Of course Honda could have been sneaky and slipped the new ElectricPowerSteering on the Rincons without telling anyone... your expert thoughts on this are welcome???[/quote]

I am apparently developing dislexia in my old age. The juxtaposition of "low first gear" and EPS translated to low first gear and ESP, which, in fact, IS on the Rincon. Which I use and like.

Anyway... now that I've caught up, explain why EPS is a good thing. I can't see a need for it, but then I'm doing mostly trail riding on my own property, and 4 miles to the mailbox. Only thing I've noticed is I like to switch off the 4wd for more control in drifts etc. 4wd is used only on the steep hills involved in a few maintenance areas of the property.

EPS might be useful in deep mud. Is that it?

My other allusion was to the general doubts about some of the comments made by non-Rincon owners. You get a pass..

 

[Guest]

Hi Richard,

I wondered how long it would take for you to realize your dislexia was playing with your mind. Of course Honda doesn't make it easy on us with all the S, ES, ESP, EPS denotions.

Concerning the Power Steering, if you ever off road a truck or Jeep, try cutting your Power Steering belt and driving off road with it. The difference is literally the same. At first I thought the EPS was gonna be a gimmic, but after having my brothers 05 Foreman here at my place for a few weeks doing some work with it and then buying my new 07 with EPS. the difference is night and day.

Not only does the EPS literally act exactly like Power Steering on a car/truck. (BTW, if you are not old enough to remember driving cars without Power Steering if will be hard for you to understand). BUT it also acts as the best steering damper you have ever felt.

Trust me, go to a dealer and drive one with Power Steering, and just do a simple turnaround and you will start to understand. Better yet if you see a buddy with one on the trail drive and feel what it is like to not have the handlebars pulled out of your hands over rocks, etc. Within 5 years all of the top lines will have EPS available or standard, it is that good.

BTW, thanks for the "Pass"

OH, sorry I kept playing with your head when I knew all along your were thinking of ESP (Electronic SHIFT Program). I couldn't resit and you have to admit you deserved it just a little.

All in fun, and you made a new friend!

David

 

[rdharper]

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":2urphu5p)

Concerning the Power Steering, if you ever off road a truck or Jeep, try cutting your Power Steering belt and driving off road with it. The difference is literally the same. At first I thought the EPS was gonna be a gimmic, but after having my brothers 05 Foreman here at my place for a few weeks doing some work with it and then buying my new 07 with EPS. the difference is night and day.

Not only does the EPS literally act exactly like Power Steering on a car/truck. (BTW, if you are not old enough to remember driving cars without Power Steering if will be hard for you to understand). BUT it also acts as the best steering damper you have ever felt.

Good explanation... I get it.

QUOTE ("07ForemanES/EPS":2urphu5p)

All in fun, and you made a new friend!

Good.. same here.

Btw, as to "old enough to remember"... 'fraid I am. Got about 1/2 million miles on 2 wheels (50k on the current GW). First several 2 wheel vehicles were before Honda sold in the US market. When they did, I owned it, back in the early 60's.

If you haven't read it, pick up a copy of "Honda.. an American Success Story". Honda's success is no accident... and its a fun read.

 

[Guest]

Richard,

We seem to have even more in common. I started riding dirt bikes in the late 60's. My first "dirt bike" was a 67ish? Honda Sport 65 with fenders removed, knobbies and a 72 tooth sprocket.. upgraded a few years later to a 70 or 71 SL125

I have had just about all of them, Dirt Bikes, Sport Bikes, Dual Sports, and even owned 2 (75&76) TL250 Trials bikes.... my all time favorite was my 03 XR650R with HRC kit and Baja DS kit (see photo)... when I hear about people slinging mud etc with ATVs I chuckle when I think of that beastie..

Have a great day,

Dave

Edit: BTW, my sincere apologies to "dbholomey" as I just realized we have sort of hijacked his thread, SORRY!!