If you do serious mudding dont get mudlites, they wont get you anywhere. Get some laws or zillas. Those are definitely the top 2 mud tires available. If you are looking for trail and mud, I would recommend the bi/tri claws (if you can find them in stock) or vamps. Since interco has moved to mexico it seems alot of the vamps are comin up an inch to 1.5" short.