QUOTE ("rdharper")
yeah, they hooked it up and came up with nothing. they have been working with Honda techs over the phone. Honda is supposed to send somebody down to the dealer to take a look at it. it is just annoying that he has not even had it for 9 mos, and two of those have been at the shop. he is about ready to ask for a new one.
The one concern I've had with the recent trend of making ATV's as complex as vehicle designs is that very complexity.
They may be more efficient with less emissions, and work well as long as all is right, but sensors, switches and connectors are the most likely thing to fail. The more of them there are are, the greater the chance of failure.
With higher complexity, and a greater chance of failure of a $2 part, diagnosis becomes ever more important.
This is clear with the automobile. The 80's vehicles are generally simple to fix, and can be easily sorted out by the DIY crowd.
The 90's vehicles saw a tremendous increase in complexity aimed at meeting emmissions and efficiency standards.
With OBDII, came the availability of improved diagnostic tools which can be used by the DIY crowd, a big help with sorting out the increased complexity.
Point is, forcing the ATV to use all that higher complexity in an off-road vehicle that averages a few thousand hours of use in its lifetime, is highly questionable.
But given this "strategy", the next best thing would be diagnostic tools for the owner, much like we have in the automobile world.
Without them, we are somewhat at the mercy of the dealer, and the manufacturer.
The only saving grace is that Honda makes good stuff, most of the time.
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RDHARPER hit the nail on the head, remember the old saying KISS (keep it simple stupid). That's why I'll take my FOREMAN 500S over these new machines any day.