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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-21-2018, 02:57 AM
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27” outlaws in mud you WILL need a GR, a 14.5/15% will do it if you go up to 29.5’s you’ll want the next reduction size up (or down, whichever way you look at it)
Here’s a screenshot of a price list and GR’s available from ‘reduction boss’ (Jeremy Lee) you can get in touch with him through FB. Ron Shaw, Don Oglesby and Chris Clarke also make GR’s. Don & Chris will also fit for you if your close to them.
The clutch I would only bother with if you fit a GR.
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Thanks for the info. Would be able to send the link to this. The picture is super fuzzy and can barely make it out. I would like to talk to one of these guys and hopefully get something on the go
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Unfortunately no GR is available for a Hondamatic Rubicon, unless you want to talk Sam into trying to build you one.


You do, however, have low range, and if you're only running 27's you should be able to get by without a GR.


You're not going to get any more power from a muffler, jet, air filter unless you do some custom motor work. It's a single cylinder Honda motor. All an exhaust does is make noise.


The big drawbike to a clutch kit comes if you have to stop on a hill. When you get ready to proceed, you give it gas, and instead of easing into it the motor revs up quite a bit before the clutch bites. That ends up with you doing a wheelie while going up the hill, which is obviously bad.


Clutch kits are fine for pit bikes. Like toodeep said, if you're starting off in the mod bog a lot it will get the tires going. For all other scenarios they have no benefits and several drawbacks.
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Thanks for the input. Low range for hills and mud? Or will high D2 be fine for mud? I've never had one of these before so I'm reading alot on these forums.
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Unfortunately I can’t access FB since I changed my phone, passwords didn’t back up to iCloud. If you search Reduction Boss or Jeremy Lee he would be what I consider the ‘main man’ in the GR building trade. If there isn’t one made (I didn’t look) he MAY make you one or at least look into it for you.
I could make one if I had a hondamatic motor in front of me but unfortunately I don’t have one and it’s not worthwhile me going out and buying one to make one reduction as there’s no market for GR’s here in the U.K.

As @jeepwm69 stated above, use low range in mud and steep hills, you’ll be fine doing things that way.

Back to clutches....

If your keen to fit clutches the best advice would be to fit EBC change clutches with new OEM springs and the same for the centrifugal clutch, use the EBC shoes but use OEM springs. Obviously things may differ if yours Is hondamatic, just avoid the HD springs.
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The older Rubicon only uses a centrifugal clutch, the rest is done with the hydro transmission. Don figured out a 450 (?) gear would give it a small reduction. Very little gain for the work involved. Turner (?) use to do a run of making the gear reductions when there was enough demand but I haven't heard of that being done in a long long time.

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Thanks for the input. Low range for hills and mud? Or will high D2 be fine for mud? I've never had one of these before so I'm reading alot on these forums.
Basfnb ran 26" laws on his Rubicon for awhile, and now has 27" Mudbugs. The bugs are lighter than the Laws, but he rides in D2 most everywhere we go. He only uses Low range for long stretches of mud (gumbo aka peanut butter mud).


If you're only running 27's I wouldn't mess with anything. The juice will not be worth the squeeze.

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4K Viper Max winch

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In low range eps 1st gear, that should get any reasonable size tire rolling. You can manually select when it wants to shift, use that to compensate.
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