Rancher won't shift - Honda Foreman Forums : Rubicon, Rincon, Rancher and Recon Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-05-2011, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
Honda Rider
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 29
Rancher won't shift

Hi, I been off the forum for almost a year, (busy). But I'm having a problem with my Rancher. Here it goes. A few days ago I moved my quad out of the garage, literally just backed it up and a few hours later pulled it back in, everything worked fine. The following day I went to move it again, started right up. Pushed the down button (it's ES) and nothing. Pushed the UP button and nothing. It would not shift out of neutral. I have no codes stored on the pod. All gauges, lights and indicators work as they should. Put the emergency shifter on and it shifts in all gears and displays the correct gear postion on the dash. I'm not even getting a click from the shift motor. Battery fully charged and connections are clean and tight. Now, here is where it gets weird. With the key on when I push either the up or down button I hear a faint beeping noise that I thought was coming from the angle sensor. So I brought out the manual and started the trouble shooting guide. So far, the angle sensor, gear shift switch (on handle bars) all checked out good. I applied 12 volts to the shift motor and it spins, in fact if I put 12 volts to it, it will change gears and the display will show the postion also. I took the shift motor out of the front case and with it still connected with the key on when I push either UP/DOWN I hear that faint noise coming from the motor. It seems like the motor is trying to spin each time I push the button. But I checked the motor using a power probe II applying 12 volts to it and it spins. The last thing I checked was the gear position switch (the one inside the rear case) and when I checked it for continuty the first time it was good, checked it again and no continuty???? Now, this switch , if it is bad, requires removing the engine, which I don't really want to do right now. But If that switch was bad wouldn't it affect the gear position indicator in the dash? I mean if I manually shift it , or put 12 volts to the motor the shifting works and so does the gear postions on the dash. I don't know what else to check. Any ideas?

2003 Honda Rancher 350 ES
start in gear mod
reverse lockout mod
viper max 3000 winch
28" EDL'S
2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660 (Modded)
merky161 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-05-2011, 11:40 PM
Honda Red Wing Rider
 
vermhot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,646
sounds like the shift censor is shot!!!

05 Green Foreman
DGL,2"SS-Lift
Plano green hunting box
heated hand grips and thumb warmer
carb mod ,Kolpin hitch,GPS bracket
rattle can camo stock rims with 28" Zillas

11 Green Rubicon
Gscape,power steer
Warn 2500,Cycle Country 54" blade
crappy stock tiers
Kolpin hitch
http://youtu.be/i9MhWDPUDHo
vermhot is offline  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-05-2011, 11:41 PM
Honda Red Wing Rider
 
vermhot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,646
Or gear shift motor !!!

05 Green Foreman
DGL,2"SS-Lift
Plano green hunting box
heated hand grips and thumb warmer
carb mod ,Kolpin hitch,GPS bracket
rattle can camo stock rims with 28" Zillas

11 Green Rubicon
Gscape,power steer
Warn 2500,Cycle Country 54" blade
crappy stock tiers
Kolpin hitch
http://youtu.be/i9MhWDPUDHo
vermhot is offline  
 
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-06-2011, 12:04 AM Thread Starter
Honda Rider
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by vermhot View Post
sounds like the shift censor is shot!!!
Not saying it isn't, but the resistance test was good. Although I 've heard of brand new out of the box sensors being bad too. Just don't want to be putting out uneccessary cash on items that aren't bad.

2003 Honda Rancher 350 ES
start in gear mod
reverse lockout mod
viper max 3000 winch
28" EDL'S
2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660 (Modded)
merky161 is offline  
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-06-2011, 09:21 AM
Administrator
 
toodeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: south dakota
Posts: 12,958
Garage
If you have a 6 volt battery that would be the proper way to test the shift motor. It can be getting bad but a full 12 volts will make it work. It's getting around 6 when it's on the machine working.



2007 420FM (475cc, 27x12x12 Mudbugs) ---------- 1995 300FW (webcamshaft, 350 rear end)
2008 420FE (26x9x12 BearClaws) -------------------
1988 300 (old stock machine, nothing fancy)
2009 420FA (25x8/10x12 BearClaw HTR) ---------
1987 350D (work in progress)

toodeep is offline  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-06-2011, 10:02 AM Thread Starter
Honda Rider
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by toodeep View Post
If you have a 6 volt battery that would be the proper way to test the shift motor. It can be getting bad but a full 12 volts will make it work. It's getting around 6 when it's on the machine working.
Thankyou, thats the answer I was looking for. I wasn't sure if a full 12 volts was going to the motor. Next question, I have 5.2 volts going to the black/red wire (that's in specs) going down to the angle sensor. Where is the shift motor getting is low power voltage from? With the key on, when I press the up/down button I should get that low voltage to the motor, correct? If I don't have any voltage to the motor while pressing the button what is bad?

2003 Honda Rancher 350 ES
start in gear mod
reverse lockout mod
viper max 3000 winch
28" EDL'S
2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660 (Modded)
merky161 is offline  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-06-2011, 05:16 PM
Honda Red Wing Rider
 
lop3r1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gulfport, mississippi
Posts: 1,585
either shift motor or shifter switch, i bet. let us know what it is. gonna be something simple...

07 foreman s camo
2" hl lift
1" hl wheel spacers
27" outlaws
epi/hl outlaw clutch kit
hmf utility, uni filter, dynojet kit
3000lb superwinch
triangle snorkel kit
herculiner on racks/front bumper
custom front recovery point
gerber gator machete mod
big nuts on the seat
lop3r1 is offline  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-06-2011, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
Honda Rider
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by lop3r1 View Post
either shift motor or shifter switch, i bet. let us know what it is. gonna be something simple...


I hope so, although nothing has been easy so far

2003 Honda Rancher 350 ES
start in gear mod
reverse lockout mod
viper max 3000 winch
28" EDL'S
2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660 (Modded)
merky161 is offline  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-07-2011, 09:36 AM Thread Starter
Honda Rider
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 29
toodeep

Where does the 12 volts get broken down to 6 volts at to operate the shift motor? I know that the black/red wire at the angle sensor has 5.0 volts so where does shift motor get it's voltage from to operate, the thumb buttons?

2003 Honda Rancher 350 ES
start in gear mod
reverse lockout mod
viper max 3000 winch
28" EDL'S
2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660 (Modded)
merky161 is offline  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-07-2011, 09:42 AM
Administrator
 
toodeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: south dakota
Posts: 12,958
Garage
The ECU (black electrical box next to the right rear tire area) is what controls it all.



2007 420FM (475cc, 27x12x12 Mudbugs) ---------- 1995 300FW (webcamshaft, 350 rear end)
2008 420FE (26x9x12 BearClaws) -------------------
1988 300 (old stock machine, nothing fancy)
2009 420FA (25x8/10x12 BearClaw HTR) ---------
1987 350D (work in progress)

toodeep is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Foreman Forums : Rubicon, Rincon, Rancher and Recon Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
08 420fe rancher won’t shift Troy Bergman How-To 2 05-31-2018 10:59 AM
420 rancher won't shift (electric shift) hunter72206 Honda Rancher 350, 400 & 420 10 02-17-2016 10:39 AM
Rancher 350 ES won't shift redneckdude120 Honda Rancher 350, 400 & 420 9 03-11-2012 01:07 AM
Please Help! Man. Shift Won't shift into 4th/fifth mhoot300 Foreman 500 0 05-16-2009 08:49 PM
ES Rancher won't shift the_budman Honda Rancher 350, 400 & 420 1 03-02-2008 12:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome