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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-01-2018, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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Buying a new ATV

I am curious - is ATV market exempt somehow from sales quota and sales pitch?
I am looking into buying a new ATV, for change.
I went to a LARGE dealership in the area. Of course, it was Sunday, maybe thta had some to do with it.
I literally was the only "potential" in clearly overstocked place.

They fetched me some gal who showed no interest in selling me anything. Like - zero. Not that I am buying at dealerships all the time but I ended asking her, if they bargain.
I even asked her, how firm are their prices - she just mumbled something about "he already has them priced well, it is what it is". Every price tag on every vehicle had MSRP and then a bunch of add ons. Unpacking fee, destination fee, this and that, usually beefing MSRP by several thousand.


Ok, maybe I got to a wrong place at the wrong time.. I called a very rural place few days later, guy on the phone also sounded like he doesn't give about selling anything.


This makes me wonder. Is ATV market simply some sort of "people walk in and are happy to buy at the dealer price no bargaining" thing? I mean, those are not cheap vehicles too. And I saw no swarming customers and Craigslist is flooded with used bikes.


What am I missing?
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i hate to say it because i am a Honda guy but my neighbor just bought a new 2018 two up Polaris 570 for $5400 plus tax two days ago. I walks away from my 500 Ruby i has quite a bit more horsepower...... Price is hard to beat...
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Well, that's not quite my question. My question is - is ATV market so hungry for buying that dealers simply sit tight on their pricing and won't budge? Never seen attitudes like this...
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it really comes down to the location your in, in some places they don't move much on prices and in others they offer way better deals on exact same machines

as they say, NOT all dealers are the same
and sadly in today's world, where so few people CARE about there job, and just look at YOU a customer as WORK, and could care less as so many work by the hr rate and NOT on commission, so there motivation is far from great!

I was just a a power sports show, there were several dealers there, I honestly stopped by a few of there booths to POSSIBLE talk about buying, and I was ignored like I wasn't even there, dealers salesmen, were sitting on machines day dreaming and looking around like they didn;'t even want to be there
NOT a one even asked me if I was looking to buy, had any questions or anything to show effort in making a sale!
a dealership like this?? I wouldn;t buy off any way, unless they sold things so cheap it was impossible top say no and I would never go back to them for service LOL

typically when I get ready to buy anything, I price shop at a LOT of dealers online, email them stating my plans, basically asking for there BEST price and telling them straight up, the BEST price gets my money, IF there close and someone beats them, I will give them a second shot to get my business, but am NOT going to play games of back and forth and small gains in better deals,
give me your best right off, and don't waste my time, and I won;t waste your's?
I have gotten a lot of Great deals this way, but I also am NOT scared to travel to get the deals I have gotten
My ATV came from 600+ miles away one way, my last truck came from almost a 1000 miles away, saved THOUSANDS on both buys!, well worth the costs of fuel and a day or two of travel for me!
but not everyone can afford to travel or have time to ! but looking farther out most times can net you the best deal!, still give the locals a shot, but most times, my locals SUCK, they think there stuff is gold or something and look for dummy's that will finance there life's away and never price shop else where! LOL
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Thank you, right on.
I must have either hit a lazy gal or stubborn dealer. I emailed a guy out in sticks... same place I called before.
He offered me - about 20 min ago - a VLX700 at a $1000 discount.... That's one grand drop from what same place quoted me over the phone Tuesday, 3 days ago.
So apparently they are just like the rest - quotas and haggling if you do it right.
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i was just letting you know that there are dealers that are offering super deals you just have to find them. sounds to me you went to a crappy dealer.....shop around!!!!My neighbors 570 listed retail over $7700.
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I was in a large, long established multi-line dealership in Nashville a few weeks ago, buying a few parts. I then spent probably 15 minutes poking around the bikes and ATV's. No one even approached me to ask if I needed help, info, etc. I thought "what a great way to NOT sell machines." I don't understand their business plan. Decades ago, I sold new and used Mazdas for about a year. The first rule of salesmanship was "greet the customer with a smile, introduce yourself and make them feel welcome." I also discovered recently that things are different at the Harley shops, where you are helped promptly.

At least in my area, the shops have plenty of inventory, and they have some wiggle room on the price.
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i hate to say it because i am a Honda guy but my neighbor just bought a new 2018 two up Polaris 570 for $5400 plus tax two days ago. I walks away from my 500 Ruby i has quite a bit more horsepower...... Price is hard to beat...
Polaris is cheap for a reason.


For about 6-8 years I have used the same parts guy at one of the biggest multi-brand dealership in the country. I've ordered close to $20K in parts from this guy.


When we discussed brands, Polaris came up, and this is what he said (cut/paste from my email)...


"Polaris can and will sell to anyone with a pay stub, credit or not, as far as the quality goes....I let it speak for itself. All the machine out back in our stable, 90% of them.....Polaris sportsmans and RZR's."

That dealership sold Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Can Am, Polaris, and Arctic Cat.

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I bought my 2013 Foreman 500 4x4 ES brand new in 2014 as a close out special and got it for $5200 out the door which included a nice 6 foot aluminum single fold ramp, a full backrest with storage, rear foot pegs, and 2 nice motocross helmet's. The one that ended up working with me the most was actually downtown Milwaukee and was mainly a motorcycle dealership selling Honda, KTM and Kawasaki but they also carry ATV's. Due to there location they don't get much ATV business so when they still had a year old model sitting in a crate in their backroom they were just happy to get rid of it and after getting the price down a bit I started in on what they could add in for accessories. The retail on those really added up so I ended up saving around $3k. You just need to find a dealership that is willing to work to get your business and walk away from the deal initially if they are not willing to negotiate but let them know if they change their mind and want your business that they can call you back in. I also ended up with a gas card since they had me come back and then didn't even have an offer ready.

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