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Silverado Man · 11-26-2011, 07:34 PM

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum. I recently picked up a 1988 Foreman. Its runs decent but needed front and rear wheel bearings and brakes. In the course of starting on these issues, I found the differentials (front and rear) full of rusty/dirty diff fluid. I knew right away I would be replacing all the bearings and seals. I have the front diff broken down and even got the pinion and bearing out. What I haven't been able to get out is the pinion needle bearing in the casting. I've tried getting the small clip out through the hole, but can't grab it. I even welded a piece of threaded rod to the bearing race. I'm able to turn the race, but still unable to grab that clip. Any ideas or suggestions on getting that pesky little bugger out? Thanks in advance.

rich450es · 11-26-2011, 07:46 PM

welcome to the forum from massachusetts !!!
i had the same problem on a 450 diff and what i did was use a dremmel with a carbide bit and ground threw the brearing race . it sucked man but if you take it slow you can grind it out !!

Silverado Man · 11-26-2011, 07:55 PM

Thanks man, I'll try that. I was using a Dremel with a small cone-shaped grinding stone. It barely scratched the surface. Where did you get the carbide bit? Just a small drill bit? Did you just keep turning the race and drill through all around it? I have to admit, I was so frustrated today, I was ready to look at new. I just have an affinity for old Foremans.

rich450es · 11-26-2011, 08:02 PM

i got the bit at home depot or sears ....i cant remember but it looks like this one !
Dremel F=1/8"Round Nose Tree CARBIDE ROTARY BURR dental | eBay
sorry man i dont show the same "love" for the old 350d and 300 lol ......there tanks but ride like a horse drawn buggy !!!lmfao

Silverado Man · 11-26-2011, 08:18 PM

Thanks man. I'll go to Home Depot tomorrow and see if they have the bit. Did you just grind out the ring, or take material off the race too?

rich450es · 11-26-2011, 08:24 PM

if its #21 yes you grind it threw to the case 180 degrees apart .....BUT DONT KNICK THE CASE !!!also what is it a 350 d or a 300....... pics are good to !!!
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Silverado Man · 11-26-2011, 09:01 PM

It is #21. I've already widened the hole (the one in the side of the casting to pull the clip through) a tiny bit from the first try with the stone bit. I have not tried grinding from the inside of the race out. (Haven't knicked the casting that the bearing presses into. It's a 350D. I'll try and post some pics.

Silverado Man · 11-27-2011, 10:43 PM

Hey, thanks for the tip. Went to Home Depot this morning and got the carbide bit. A little grinding on the ring and a tug with the home made bearing puller and it finally came out. My new parts should be in this week and hopefully I can get it back together. Then I have to do the rear diff.... Hope it will all be worth the time, money and effort.

rich450es · 11-27-2011, 10:46 PM

hay i say this and thought of you ! this was posted a few hours ago in maine !
honda 350 4x4 parts
thats what we are here for man ...no sweat !

07 foreman 500 · 11-29-2011, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich450es

hay i say this and thought of you ! this was posted a few hours ago in maine !
honda 350 4x4 parts
thats what we are here for man ...no sweat !

that would be a good parts atv for you!

11-26-2011, 07:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Silverado Man Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 9	1988 Honda Foreman Hey guys, I'm new to the forum. I recently picked up a 1988 Foreman. Its runs decent but needed front and rear wheel bearings and brakes. In the course of starting on these issues, I found the differentials (front and rear) full of rusty/dirty diff fluid. I knew right away I would be replacing all the bearings and seals. I have the front diff broken down and even got the pinion and bearing out. What I haven't been able to get out is the pinion needle bearing in the casting. I've tried getting the small clip out through the hole, but can't grab it. I even welded a piece of threaded rod to the bearing race. I'm able to turn the race, but still unable to grab that clip. Any ideas or suggestions on getting that pesky little bugger out? Thanks in advance.

11-26-2011, 07:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,645	welcome to the forum from massachusetts !!! i had the same problem on a 450 diff and what i did was use a dremmel with a carbide bit and ground threw the brearing race . it sucked man but if you take it slow you can grind it out !! __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

11-26-2011, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,645	i got the bit at home depot or sears ....i cant remember but it looks like this one ! Dremel F=1/8"Round Nose Tree CARBIDE ROTARY BURR dental \| eBay sorry man i dont show the same "love" for the old 350d and 300 lol ......there tanks but ride like a horse drawn buggy !!!lmfao __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

11-26-2011, 08:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,645	if its #21 yes you grind it threw to the case 180 degrees apart .....BUT DONT KNICK THE CASE !!!also what is it a 350 d or a 300....... pics are good to !!! Dirt Cheap Yamaha, Honda, Arctic Cat & Polaris OEM Parts & Accessories – Cycle Parts Warehouse __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

11-27-2011, 10:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,645	hay i say this and thought of you ! this was posted a few hours ago in maine ! honda 350 4x4 parts thats what we are here for man ...no sweat ! __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

11-26-2011, 07:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Silverado Man Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 9	Thanks man, I'll try that. I was using a Dremel with a small cone-shaped grinding stone. It barely scratched the surface. Where did you get the carbide bit? Just a small drill bit? Did you just keep turning the race and drill through all around it? I have to admit, I was so frustrated today, I was ready to look at new. I just have an affinity for old Foremans.

11-26-2011, 08:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Silverado Man Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 9	Thanks man. I'll go to Home Depot tomorrow and see if they have the bit. Did you just grind out the ring, or take material off the race too?

11-26-2011, 09:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Silverado Man Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 9	It is #21. I've already widened the hole (the one in the side of the casting to pull the clip through) a tiny bit from the first try with the stone bit. I have not tried grinding from the inside of the race out. (Haven't knicked the casting that the bearing presses into. It's a 350D. I'll try and post some pics.

11-27-2011, 10:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Silverado Man Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 9	Hey, thanks for the tip. Went to Home Depot this morning and got the carbide bit. A little grinding on the ring and a tug with the home made bearing puller and it finally came out. My new parts should be in this week and hopefully I can get it back together. Then I have to do the rear diff.... Hope it will all be worth the time, money and effort.

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