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jenmiller0302 · 02-02-2012, 01:15 PM

I can go in reverse but when i go foreward, my brakes are seized up. I took the rear brake assembly apart and the drum is still attached to the plate. Howdo i get the drum away from the plate so i can see if that is the problem. HELP???????

sspeckerwood · 02-02-2012, 01:24 PM

welcome to the forum. you may have to use a pry bar or even a dead-blow hammer to get it loose. make sure to spray some pb penetrating oil into as well. that will help

rich450es · 02-02-2012, 01:28 PM

welcome to the forum
it looks like (in the manual)the brake drumm is just splined on the axle but is rusted on . i would hit it with pb blaster and try working it off
sorry im not much help but toodeep will come on to help soon

jenmiller0302 · 02-02-2012, 01:33 PM

so im not going to hurt anything hitting it with something?? And is that ultimatly going to solve the problem or is it trial and error with seized up brakes??

HighTide610 · 02-02-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jenmiller0302

I can go in reverse but when i go foreward, my brakes are seized up. I took the rear brake assembly apart and the drum is still attached to the plate. Howdo i get the drum away from the plate so i can see if that is the problem. HELP???????

Welcome to the forum... I just had mine apart as well, are you saying you can't get the outer panel removed to see the actual pads and out of the drum?

With both cables off you should be able to move the rear brake arm, pull it towards the back of the ATV, the pads should release (or go back to their rest state) and like ss said, spray PB Blaster or WD-40 around the seam and you should be able to use a pry bar or screw driver to work the plate assembly out of the drum. There is 2 slots on the differential/plate mating surface that you can use to spread the parts. Be careful not to apply to much pressure and mess up the aluminum. Mine were locked up bad, and the axle seal/bearing and the felt dust seal and inner seal on the brake cam were all shot, water and mud had gotten in there and locked it up.

Good Luck

HighTide610 · 02-02-2012, 01:38 PM

Good point Rich.. I took for granted that the axle nuts were removed...

jenmiller0302 · 02-02-2012, 01:51 PM

i got the outer panel removed but i cant get the innards to move. lol i also heard from someone else that if i attach the brake cables back and move them back and forth it will undo the brakes too.

rich450es · 02-02-2012, 01:53 PM

do you mean that you cant move the brake shoes ...like the cam is seized trew the brake pannel

HighTide610 · 02-02-2012, 01:56 PM

That would be my guess as well, you can seperate the shoes by hand, remove the arm, and tap the cam out... there is 2 seals that I'm guessing are gone.

jenmiller0302 · 02-02-2012, 02:09 PM

Okay i just went and looked and the cam is still attached but the brake arm is not. the actual brake housing is attached to the outer panel and it wont come apart, do i need to take the cam off and then the housing and everything will come off??

02-02-2012, 01:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
jenmiller0302 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 11	rear brakes I can go in reverse but when i go foreward, my brakes are seized up. I took the rear brake assembly apart and the drum is still attached to the plate. Howdo i get the drum away from the plate so i can see if that is the problem. HELP???????

02-02-2012, 01:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
sspeckerwood Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: tooele, ut Posts: 8,777	welcome to the forum. you may have to use a pry bar or even a dead-blow hammer to get it loose. make sure to spray some pb penetrating oil into as well. that will help __________________ 2012 TRX500FM FOREMAN. SSPECKERWOOD 3RD HEADLIGHT MOD QUAD BOSS REAR SEAT 26" SWAMPLITES KFI #3000 WINCH HOT GRIPS HEATED GRIPS & THUMB WARMER HONDA ALUMINUM A-ARM GUARDS 00' FOREMAN 450es HIGH LIFTER SPRINGS FRONT & REAR MAXXIS TIRES OFF A 2012 FOREMAN 500 SSPECKERWOOD 3RD HEADLIGHT MOD http://www.flickr.com/photos/sspeckerwood/ http://www.youtube.com/user/sspeckerwood Official hondaforeman.com stickers IF YOU WOULD LIKE OFFICIAL HONDAFOREMAN.COM STICKERS PM ME.

02-02-2012, 01:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,644	welcome to the forum it looks like (in the manual)the brake drumm is just splined on the axle but is rusted on . i would hit it with pb blaster and try working it off sorry im not much help but toodeep will come on to help soon __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

02-02-2012, 01:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
HighTide610 Honda Rider Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 30	Good point Rich.. I took for granted that the axle nuts were removed... __________________ "The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." In a previous life... 1986 ATC 250R 1985 CR500R 1985 ATC 250R 1985 ATC 350X 1983 ATC 200X I liked speed....

02-02-2012, 01:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,644	do you mean that you cant move the brake shoes ...like the cam is seized trew the brake pannel __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

02-02-2012, 01:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
jenmiller0302 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 11	so im not going to hurt anything hitting it with something?? And is that ultimatly going to solve the problem or is it trial and error with seized up brakes??

02-02-2012, 01:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
jenmiller0302 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 11	i got the outer panel removed but i cant get the innards to move. lol i also heard from someone else that if i attach the brake cables back and move them back and forth it will undo the brakes too.

02-02-2012, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
HighTide610 Honda Rider Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 30	That would be my guess as well, you can seperate the shoes by hand, remove the arm, and tap the cam out... there is 2 seals that I'm guessing are gone. __________________ "The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." In a previous life... 1986 ATC 250R 1985 CR500R 1985 ATC 250R 1985 ATC 350X 1983 ATC 200X I liked speed....

02-02-2012, 02:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
jenmiller0302 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 11	Okay i just went and looked and the cam is still attached but the brake arm is not. the actual brake housing is attached to the outer panel and it wont come apart, do i need to take the cam off and then the housing and everything will come off??

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