06' Recon ES won't start help! - Honda Foreman Forums : Rubicon, Rincon, Rancher and Recon Forum

Mudrover337 · 11-29-2010, 05:30 PM

Hey guys, i need your help here, today when i tried to crank my quad, as soon as i clicked the starter, i heard something that sounded like a pop, something breaking perhaps? so i let off of it. then i did it again and yet another sound of this. so i waited, pulled the choke and it started up, but i accidently put some old gas in it about a week before, it wont idle but will run when you give it gas. that was then. today, i was revving trying to get it warmed up, having the choke on, and it was putting out some blue smoke when i was doing it. why? then it shut off, so i tried to crank it back up and it did for a second. then shut off, now nothing, i've been trying for the past 45 minutes trying to get it to crank and nothing. could it have broken something inside? or is that not likely? it has been sitting for about a week and its been cold down here, i know quads don't like the cold too much. i took the air cleaner off and blew air through all the holes and took the spark plug out and checked it, it was all black on the end but still gave a spark. i'm guessing thats normal seeing as it has to light the mixture etc. but i'm just baffled on what this could be. could it be flooded? maybe just wait and try again tomorrow? i duno here, please help. btw it has good gas in it now, i put some in today.

2003 foreman es · 11-29-2010, 06:51 PM

Not likely broke.... Sounds like you may need to pull the carb and clean it. The blue smoke could be that there was oil in the old gas. Anyway, make sure all the old gas is dumped out of the tank. Dont just add fresh fuel to the old sh!t. Replace the plug also.

Mudrover337 · 11-29-2010, 06:54 PM

Ok thanks! I havnt been in any really mucky stuff lately, however i did run it with the air cleaner cover off, but that shouldnt have effected it, just around the yard and it still had the foam cover on it. how hard is it to clean the carb? how would i get to it and how long will it take?

Andamo · 11-30-2010, 07:03 AM

Almost sounds like you put 2 cycle gas in the gas tank. Drain the tank completely and don't forget to drain the reserve part of the tank also. Drain the carb if that's possible. Put just a little fresh gas into the tank and let it come into the carb. Then drain the carb again. You should be able to then put fresh gas into the tank and try and start it using the cleaned old plug. If you can get it running, let it run a while. You'll probably have unburned oil in the exhaust and it'll push out smoke till that all burns off. After that stops, add some Sea Foam to the gas, put in a fresh plug and you should be good.

Mudrover337 · 11-30-2010, 05:38 PM

it cranked up today, and it ran around the yard, but i had to hold the choke out to keep it running, then it just quit again, trash in the carb maybe?

2003 foreman es · 11-30-2010, 06:07 PM

Prolly...

Mudrover337 · 12-02-2010, 06:50 PM

Pulled the carb today. Everything looked alright until i got to where the float and float cover was. it had some green mushy stuff in there, wonder what that could be? anyways i tore it down as far as i could, rebuilding it all tomorrow, hoping this will get it running right!

Andamo · 12-02-2010, 08:17 PM

I'm still of the belief there was 2 cycle gasoline put into the gas tank and you're seeing some the residual oil that was in the gas.

350rancherboy · 12-02-2010, 09:26 PM

Before you pull the carb (not reallythat hard) dry draining the bolw? Maybe some crud will come out there (prolly not but worth a try)

Mudrover337 · 12-02-2010, 09:50 PM

That would make that green sludge? I know for a fact it wasn't 2 cycle gas. It was old gas that came out of my blazer that I accidentally put in there. And 350rancherboy, I have already pulled the carb, cleaned it up and gonna put it all back in tomorrow, thats how I knew that it had some green sludge in it. Thanks for all the help guys.

11-29-2010, 05:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mudrover337 Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12	06' Recon ES won't start help! Hey guys, i need your help here, today when i tried to crank my quad, as soon as i clicked the starter, i heard something that sounded like a pop, something breaking perhaps? so i let off of it. then i did it again and yet another sound of this. so i waited, pulled the choke and it started up, but i accidently put some old gas in it about a week before, it wont idle but will run when you give it gas. that was then. today, i was revving trying to get it warmed up, having the choke on, and it was putting out some blue smoke when i was doing it. why? then it shut off, so i tried to crank it back up and it did for a second. then shut off, now nothing, i've been trying for the past 45 minutes trying to get it to crank and nothing. could it have broken something inside? or is that not likely? it has been sitting for about a week and its been cold down here, i know quads don't like the cold too much. i took the air cleaner off and blew air through all the holes and took the spark plug out and checked it, it was all black on the end but still gave a spark. i'm guessing thats normal seeing as it has to light the mixture etc. but i'm just baffled on what this could be. could it be flooded? maybe just wait and try again tomorrow? i duno here, please help. btw it has good gas in it now, i put some in today.

11-29-2010, 06:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
2003 foreman es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Motor City Posts: 3,666	Not likely broke.... Sounds like you may need to pull the carb and clean it. The blue smoke could be that there was oil in the old gas. Anyway, make sure all the old gas is dumped out of the tank. Dont just add fresh fuel to the old sh!t. Replace the plug also. __________________ 03 Foreman ES Too much to list...

11-30-2010, 06:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
2003 foreman es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Motor City Posts: 3,666	Prolly... __________________ 03 Foreman ES Too much to list...

12-02-2010, 09:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
350rancherboy Honda Lover Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 289	Before you pull the carb (not reallythat hard) dry draining the bolw? Maybe some crud will come out there (prolly not but worth a try) __________________ ATVLESS

11-29-2010, 06:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mudrover337 Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12	Ok thanks! I havnt been in any really mucky stuff lately, however i did run it with the air cleaner cover off, but that shouldnt have effected it, just around the yard and it still had the foam cover on it. how hard is it to clean the carb? how would i get to it and how long will it take?

11-30-2010, 07:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
Andamo Honda Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sarver, PA Posts: 156	Almost sounds like you put 2 cycle gas in the gas tank. Drain the tank completely and don't forget to drain the reserve part of the tank also. Drain the carb if that's possible. Put just a little fresh gas into the tank and let it come into the carb. Then drain the carb again. You should be able to then put fresh gas into the tank and try and start it using the cleaned old plug. If you can get it running, let it run a while. You'll probably have unburned oil in the exhaust and it'll push out smoke till that all burns off. After that stops, add some Sea Foam to the gas, put in a fresh plug and you should be good.

11-30-2010, 05:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mudrover337 Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12	it cranked up today, and it ran around the yard, but i had to hold the choke out to keep it running, then it just quit again, trash in the carb maybe?

12-02-2010, 06:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mudrover337 Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12	Pulled the carb today. Everything looked alright until i got to where the float and float cover was. it had some green mushy stuff in there, wonder what that could be? anyways i tore it down as far as i could, rebuilding it all tomorrow, hoping this will get it running right!

12-02-2010, 08:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Andamo Honda Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sarver, PA Posts: 156	I'm still of the belief there was 2 cycle gasoline put into the gas tank and you're seeing some the residual oil that was in the gas.

12-02-2010, 09:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mudrover337 Honda Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12	That would make that green sludge? I know for a fact it wasn't 2 cycle gas. It was old gas that came out of my blazer that I accidentally put in there. And 350rancherboy, I have already pulled the carb, cleaned it up and gonna put it all back in tomorrow, thats how I knew that it had some green sludge in it. Thanks for all the help guys.

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