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- ID - · 04-24-2010, 04:56 PM

ok i was wonderin if it would hurt to get octane booster and put in a recon to drag race..

like would it hurt it or make it go faster and more powerful

**toodeep** · 04-24-2010, 05:32 PM

It won't hurt anything but I doubt your going to see any improvements. The machine is designed to run on the lower octane fuel so that's where it will run the best. If you see any gains it's probably because it refreshed some old fuel.

Andamo · 04-25-2010, 09:12 AM

If you were to do A-B-A testing between regular gasoline and a gasoline that has a octane enhancer, you'll see very little gain. The compression ratio on these motors are low so regular gas can be used. Adding race gas or aviation gas will help slightly, but in bracket drag racing it's consistency from run to run that wins races. Plus the motor will run hotter and that's something you don't want especially with a air cooled motor. Here is a picture of our drag car. Our motor is a 832 cubic inch motor with 16.5 to 1 compression ration. So we HAVE to use a high octane leaded gasoline at $16.50 a gallon !

Maniac1976 · 04-25-2010, 12:17 PM

if you have the money u can have it bored oversized and put in a new piston but that's about all. I have 2 friends who race 450's on a cross country circut, they have put thousands into the motors, big bore kits different cams lighter cranks head jobs the works, the best bet is a bigger bore with a head port and polish the better air flows in and out the more power you'll get, but all that adds heat like mentioned earlier and all you have is air to cool it off. I wonder what the possibility of adding a fan would do?

AloRaptor · 04-25-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andamo

If you were to do A-B-A testing between regular gasoline and a gasoline that has a octane enhancer, you'll see very little gain. The compression ratio on these motors are low so regular gas can be used. Adding race gas or aviation gas will help slightly, but in bracket drag racing it's consistency from run to run that wins races. Plus the motor will run hotter and that's something you don't want especially with a air cooled motor. Here is a picture of our drag car. Our motor is a 832 cubic inch motor with 16.5 to 1 compression ration. So we HAVE to use a high octane leaded gasoline at $16.50 a gallon !

sorry to get off topic but that is one sweet looking ride!!

geronimo · 07-06-2010, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andamo

If you were to do A-B-A testing between regular gasoline and a gasoline that has a octane enhancer, you'll see very little gain. The compression ratio on these motors are low so regular gas can be used. Adding race gas or aviation gas will help slightly, but in bracket drag racing it's consistency from run to run that wins races. Plus the motor will run hotter and that's something you don't want especially with a air cooled motor. Here is a picture of our drag car. Our motor is a 832 cubic inch motor with 16.5 to 1 compression ration. So we HAVE to use a high octane leaded gasoline at $16.50 a gallon !

thats a great sig, words to remember... reminds me of an old sawyer brown song....peace

Dawg Fan · 07-07-2010, 08:38 AM

I used a higher octane in this and she went weeeely weeeely fast! Oh yeah, the 100 shot of nitrous helped out too!!! ha ha

and here is a small video of how she faired against a 500 hp turbow bike in Indy....

and as I got older...I went from that to 4 wheelers!!!! ha ha

Andamo · 07-07-2010, 04:17 PM

That's a beautiful looking bike you have there. It looks like it's going 100 mph just sitting ! But no thanks, we'll stick to 4 wheels and a cage.

I see the video of your bike was shot at Martin, MI. We just raced there a few weeks ago in the ADRL race. Except for the rain, it's a nice track.

Dawg Fan · 07-07-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andamo

That's a beautiful looking bike you have there. It looks like it's going 100 mph just sitting ! But no thanks, we'll stick to 4 wheels and a cage.

I see the video of your bike was shot at Martin, MI. We just raced there a few weeks ago in the ADRL race. Except for the rain, it's a nice track.

Yeah, she is a piece of work thats for sure. We were in Martin....we traveled so much, I forget where the different videos and pics are from.

04-24-2010, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
- ID - Honda Rider Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18	would it hurt ok i was wonderin if it would hurt to get octane booster and put in a recon to drag race.. like would it hurt it or make it go faster and more powerful

04-25-2010, 09:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Andamo Honda Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sarver, PA Posts: 116	If you were to do A-B-A testing between regular gasoline and a gasoline that has a octane enhancer, you'll see very little gain. The compression ratio on these motors are low so regular gas can be used. Adding race gas or aviation gas will help slightly, but in bracket drag racing it's consistency from run to run that wins races. Plus the motor will run hotter and that's something you don't want especially with a air cooled motor. Here is a picture of our drag car. Our motor is a 832 cubic inch motor with 16.5 to 1 compression ration. So we HAVE to use a high octane leaded gasoline at $16.50 a gallon ! __________________ Black Diamond Motorsports XPS Pontiac GXP Mind Science Motorsports American Drag Racing League

07-07-2010, 08:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dawg Fan Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL. Posts: 625	I used a higher octane in this and she went weeeely weeeely fast! Oh yeah, the 100 shot of nitrous helped out too!!! ha ha and here is a small video of how she faired against a 500 hp turbow bike in Indy.... and as I got older...I went from that to 4 wheelers!!!! ha ha __________________ 09' Foreman Half Camo / Half Tan Color 28" Outlaws 1-1/2" wheel spacers 2" Perfex Long Arm Travel Lift HMF Utility Exhaust Dyno Jet Kit K&n Filter and Outerware Home Depot Snorkle

07-07-2010, 04:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Andamo Honda Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sarver, PA Posts: 116	That's a beautiful looking bike you have there. It looks like it's going 100 mph just sitting ! But no thanks, we'll stick to 4 wheels and a cage. I see the video of your bike was shot at Martin, MI. We just raced there a few weeks ago in the ADRL race. Except for the rain, it's a nice track. __________________ Black Diamond Motorsports XPS Pontiac GXP Mind Science Motorsports American Drag Racing League Last edited by Andamo; 07-07-2010 at 04:20 PM.

04-24-2010, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
toodeep Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: south dakota Posts: 6,424	It won't hurt anything but I doubt your going to see any improvements. The machine is designed to run on the lower octane fuel so that's where it will run the best. If you see any gains it's probably because it refreshed some old fuel.

04-25-2010, 12:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Maniac1976 Honda Rider Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 79	if you have the money u can have it bored oversized and put in a new piston but that's about all. I have 2 friends who race 450's on a cross country circut, they have put thousands into the motors, big bore kits different cams lighter cranks head jobs the works, the best bet is a bigger bore with a head port and polish the better air flows in and out the more power you'll get, but all that adds heat like mentioned earlier and all you have is air to cool it off. I wonder what the possibility of adding a fan would do?

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