mac102004

Who said that? Top speed depends on more then just peak HP. Have to look at the powerband, if the bikes power curve shoots up from idle to mid range then falls on it's face then your top speed won't be good. Also depends on gearing, if it's geared to low it will rev out before it hits max speed. But if it's geared to high it wont have the power to hit top speed either. Then you have to take into account the tires that are on it. Aftermarket tires can kill your top speed.

I don't know what is the fastest of the three to be honest. But it's like comparing turtles anyway LOL none of them are very fast.

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'10 Outty 800R XT

temagamiarearider

no. they are pretty much bulletproof since the 2005 models. if I give up a couple horsepower to have this tranny I dont personally mind at all. as mac said... theyre all turtles and Im more interested in the riding characteristics than speed on my rubi.

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2010 Can Am Outlander 800R XT

tskfreak

absolutely agree, guys like i said this is my first bike so im interested because when someone jumps on my bike they cant believe the power of it..... me i really dont know any better, but it makes me happy to here the feedback

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h22ate

Thats pretty much it. With the weight of those machines especially the foreman and the rubi. If I were a bettin kinda guy I would definitely put money down on a recon eating up a rubicon all day on a 100' stretch. Power to weight ration on the bigger honda ATVs is rather poor, thats why the little much more nimble recon is a quick sumbitch.

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jbgill06

My Recon was pretty quick for a 229cc and just over 400lbs. Top speed was about 45mph, and just a tad slower on top end than my friends Rancher 350 4x4, and I always got him out of the hole. The same for my others friends and their machines, a few Polaris Trailblazers, an Explorer 250 4x4, and the Magnum 325 4x4. My only real competition was the Yamahas, the Beartracker 250 and his older brother in the Timberwolf 250. The Recon smoked'em ll in the trails though.

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HMF Swamp Series XL & Optimizer
Twin Air Filter
High Lifter Springs
Viper Max 3500lb Winch
Kimpex Bumpers
Warn Skid Plate
Maier Handguards
ODI Rogue Grips
25" Maxxis Bighorn 2.0
26" ITP Mudlite XL

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Pr Armor XC Bumper
Maxxis RAZR II Tires
ITP Rims

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h22ate

Yep, I believe it. My recon would zip past the rubi all day long..... well im sure 27s and about 150lbs of added steel to it doesnt help all that much.

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DogRunner2

Almost 7 hp more. I don't believe the auto tranny eats up over 20% of its power.

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2012 Polaris 400(wife's)

mac102004

7hp? Rounding up from 5.1hp? (2012 #'s) I'm in search of a dyno chart from a few years back, so that's all for now...

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mac102004

Alright I can't find the chart but I have numbers.

Does anyone here remember TEXmudder on the HL forum? This is from his rubicon when he installed a BBK and cam.

Stock 2002 Rubicon.

HP 20.9
TQ 36 lb/ft

AT THE WHEELS.

33.4hp at the motor

That's about a 37% power loss correct?

Stock 2012 Foreman your looking at around 22-23hp and about the same torque at the wheels. Power at the motor is 28.3hp. So that's only a 19-23% loss in power.

Any other arguments?

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lockburner2000

Don't care i still would get another Rubicon.

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