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Old 06-27-2010, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I hit 20 hrs on my Rubi last week and changed my oil. After reading the different forums on here about installing the filter backwards, I paid really close attention to how the filter came out. I could not see any difference in either side of the filter. The filter that I removed looked identical on both sides as well and did not have the "This side to motor" as I have read in other forums. This is an 2009 500FA and I was wondering if something changed in the filters to where they can go in either direction. The forums that I read about installing them backwards were always early to mid-2000 year models. My filter is similar to the filter on the left in picture where the seals are below the surface of the filter on both sides.






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Old 06-27-2010, 02:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Rubicon filters are identical on both sides. Nothing has changed since they first came out in 2001. Just remember to make sure the washer is installed between the filter and spring. The washers will easily stick to the old filter and can get thrown away if you don't know it's there.
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Thanks! I did removed the thin washer from the old filter and placed it on the new one when I installed it.
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I today was heading to the Honda shop today to get the GN4 oil for my Rubi's oil change today. I was going to head to the local auto parts store for the Wix filter that you spoke of. I was talking to the parts manager at Honda and I asked him about the filter, and he strong disagreed with me about buying a non Honda filter for it. At first I thought it was a ploy for a sale, and he gave me the example of a local customer who used one and had an engine failure of some sort that required a Honda rep to come look at it, and upon examination, it had a Wix filter in it, that had "collapsed" for some reason and it voided the warranty and Honda would not fix the engine... Don't know all the dynamics of the story, but it was enough for me to pay the 14.00.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Unfortunately there are many dealerships that play this game of telling customers they may have warranty denied for using products other than what they themselves recommend. They want your repeat business and they are using intimation to get it. You buy what I tell you to buy or something bad is going to happen.


Wix does not make junk filters. I think they feed you a line of BS and won you over with it.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I understand what you are saying about making you feel that Honda is the only way to go. But since I was buying oil and he asked about filter, I figured that I should go ahead and buy it, just in case there is a service issue in the future, the topic won't come up. I will sneak a Wix in, on the next one.
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Not sure of the newer ones but I have personally seen the older napa/wix filters fall apart in my hands. Nothing that would cause any motor damage but it didn't set easy with me.
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Here is a NAPA gold (Wix) with 11,889 miles with synthetic oil


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Here is a NAPA gold (Wix) with 11,889 miles with synthetic oil


thats all good, but why worry about a few bucks extra, i only use honda oil and same goes for the filter,they make a great wheeler, i don't think there going to skimp on the filters. if theres any question about voiding warr, go with the honda filter. its a proven product.
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I wont use anything but a honda oil filter. Thanks for all that info...
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