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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 05-22-2016, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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Advice on which quad to get

Hi,

I'm trying to decide between which quad to get. The rancher, the rubicon, or the foreman.

My uses: I'm dragging an arena with a 250lb drag for my horses, and pulling a roping dummy. I may even occasionally pull a small tree/ bush out of the ground every so often...I think I need at least a 450cc for the job and want an automatic.

Whats a good price OTD for 2015/ 2016 models? I don't want to get 'retailed.'

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i have a 16 rubicon with auto and power steering and i love everything about it (so far) lol , i think the rubicon would fit your needs perfect and i think it would out pull the rancher and foreman as it is heavier (more traction) and has low range.

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i have a 16 rubicon with auto and power steering and i love everything about it (so far) lol , i think the rubicon would fit your needs perfect and i think it would out pull the rancher and foreman as it is heavier (more traction) and has low range.
What was your OTD price?
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get either the foreman or the Rubicon
I lean towards the foreman, and a MANUAL shift, for tugging on the tree;s
pulling a 250lb drag is a LOT of resistance on an atv, as its NOT the weight of the implement, its the resistance it gets when being dragged, the teeth dig in and can add hundreds if not thousand of lbs more to the drag from it!

to be 100 % Honest,
your WAY better off buying a small tractor, will to the work a TON easier and less wear and tear on things
I have used both atv's and tractors doing farming work, there is NO comparison between the two when it comes to pulling things! Night and day difference!
can an atv do it, sure, but its as they say NOT the right tool for the job,!

Sorry to bust your bubble, just honest info here!
I'd suggest you look for a older tractor, like a IH Model H, or a Ford 8-n
can be had for about a grand and will pull a drag all day and not break a sweat and save you a bunch of time and money! and not be killing your atv!
then buy an atv for fun LOL

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get either the foreman or the Rubicon
I lean towards the foreman, and a MANUAL shift, for tugging on the tree;s
pulling a 250lb drag is a LOT of resistance on an atv, as its NOT the weight of the implement, its the resistance it gets when being dragged, the teeth dig in and can add hundreds if not thousand of lbs more to the drag from it!

to be 100 % Honest,
your WAY better off buying a small tractor, will to the work a TON easier and less wear and tear on things
I have used both atv's and tractors doing farming work, there is NO comparison between the two when it comes to pulling things! Night and day difference!
can an atv do it, sure, but its as they say NOT the right tool for the job,!

Sorry to bust your bubble, just honest info here!
I'd suggest you look for a older tractor, like a IH Model H, or a Ford 8-n
can be had for about a grand and will pull a drag all day and not break a sweat and save you a bunch of time and money! and not be killing your atv!
then buy an atv for fun LOL



Why MANUAL for pulling trees ???? the auto will work just as well... obviously they are more prone to electrical problems down the the road BUT if we worried about that we are screwed. but as far as pulling the dct will just as good as manual.. and plus with auto you get LOW RANGE which would make a big difference..

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What was your OTD price?

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it depends if you want IRS or SRA (independent rear suspension or straight rear axle ) I trust the straight rear axle more then the CV axles on the IRS

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Why MANUAL for pulling trees ???? the auto will work just as well... obviously they are more prone to electrical problems down the the road BUT if we worried about that we are screwed. but as far as pulling the dct will just as good as manual.. and plus with auto you get LOW RANGE which would make a big difference..
The low range doesn't help much with pulling things like trees...

Mine is manual, 1st gear is really low... I've pulled trees, mowers, stumps, dead cows, trailers weighing way more than Honda recommends (well over 1322 lbs) and a couple of vehicles stuck in the snow...

The bike has WAY, WAY more power than it has weight to get traction with.... Lower gear just means you spin a little slower.... Nothing more, nothing less.

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Not knocking the auto.... As stated, it will pull whatever just as good as the manual.... But no better.
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My logic, if it can be called that, on a manual is this
first gear is LOW< and being a manual, it won;t try to UP shift as rpm's increase, so you can I THINK hold a low gear better
plus a solid axle will NOT squat really as your hooked to a solid object like tree, be surprised how deep some roots will go on even SMALL tree's
I had a few small shrubs that my 3/4 truck wouldn't budget and they were so small it was unreal, but roots went down like 6+ ft in several directions, had to dig my brains out to get enough give to rip them out with the truck in 4 low, and it weight a good 8k loaded as it was
which is again also why I suggested a small tractor, for doing things like this
pulling a trailer is a LOT different than pulling a drag, by a LOT!
I have done both many many many times, and know the difference all too well !
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