I have a 2015 Rubicon DTC ES and auto transmission. The question, when in ES mode and at a stop should I be able to shif up to 2nd or 3rd before moving. I can not. If I try it goes to 2nd and right back to 1str. If I try this two or three times it shows a dash mark on the display. I have asked the Honda dealer this question and have recieved different answeres depending on who I ask. The other question I have, when in ES mode and 5th gear and begin to slow down the transmission shifts down depending on speed and will go all the way to 1st gear if I come to a complete stop. I thougt it would stop at 3rd gear. Mabey this is all normal. The machine is 150 miles from a dealer and I do not want to bring into the dealer if this is norma operation. If anyone has a 2015 Rubicon that could verify this it would be appreciated.
mines done pretty well when iv had it in the ES mode. Im pretty sure i can start in 2nd. 1st is to low for me sometimes. Ill mess with it tomorrow and let you know. It may not go in 3rd, but like i said i think i can start in 2nd.
The computer thinks it's starter than you. This is normal from what I hear, the ES mode is not truly independent of the auto mode on these DCT transmissions.
Mine is the same way . In es mode it will down shift on its own to first gear when I stop . I haven't tried to take off in any other gear than first so that part I can not answer but when I get home from work I will try .
Mine will downshift into 2nd gear if in high range, but low range it will downshift into 1st. Also in low range it won't hold a higher gear unless the RPMS are high enough, it will constantly shift down a gear.
My old 420AT in ES mode would downshift to 3rd gear though.
I would like to thank everyone that responded to my questions about my 2015 Rubicon. From the responses that I received, I believe it is normal for it to shift down to first when coming to a stop. The question of being able to take off in 2nd or higher gears is still questionable. If someone can answer this I would be grateful.
theres no shortage of idiots riding quads!!! personally I like the idea of the transmission protecting itself by not allowing "stupidity downshifts". you know the kind... hit a bump doing 40mph and accidentally force the tranny into 1st gear type of thing. I dont even mind the idea of it automatically going to 1st when I come to a stop provided I can force a pull away in 2nd... the esp on the hondamatics allow this. someone can correct me if Im wrong.... but I dont recall my hondamatic forcing the downshift until I come to a stop. its been 7 months since I rode my rubi.... that will change this weekend though. the snow is finishing up melting here and most of the trails are clear! woohoooo
on the new rubi you can start in any gear you want from a stop in esp if you ROCK the wheeler back and forth ......tried it today on sspeckerwoods rubi ....lol
Honest question, not trying to be a smart butt at all, but why would you want to start off in a higher gear? Making the clutch work more and slip more to do the same thing isn't all that healthy for the centrifugal clutch shoes and drum in the long run.
sometimes 2nd is all you need pulling away gently on level terrain. the real reason is likely most of us feel we need to be in control and can do better than the tranny. I do particularly like the esp for long downhill grades.
The question of why would I want to use 2nd or higher gear to start, has been asked. The answer is, sometimes you do not need the power that is applied to the wheels in low. Just as some car automatic transmissions can lock 1st gear out and start in 2nd. More importantly if the machine is designed to start out in higher gears and it won’t then there is a problem that I want Honda to fix. I have asked two Honda dealers this question and have not received a definitive answer as yet.
starting in 1st on a level surface is too much because you almost immediately shift up to 2nd.
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