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sadams · 08-29-2010, 12:05 AM

My rancher will idle all day but when you try to go it dies. its been sitting for about two months. The same gas has been in it for over six months. does anyone have idea how to fix problem?

Gauntlet3D · 08-29-2010, 09:37 AM

I could be bad gas. I would check the battery cables first though.

sadams · 08-29-2010, 01:59 PM

The cables are tight. I drained gas and put new in and same problem. the FI light blinks 1 and then 8 times. It also will not go into gear it must have safety thing on it to not let me. it is electric shift

sadams · 08-30-2010, 02:19 AM

will angel sensor make it die? because i can not get it to go into gear.

**toodeep** · 08-30-2010, 11:28 AM

How's the battery? The codes are for low/high voltage to the TP and Map sensors. A low/dead battery will also effect the shifting.

ZZ71 · 08-30-2010, 01:14 PM

While you might have put in fresh gas in tank, problem might be between tank the engine. Carb or injectors gumed up.

Any fuel containing ethanol can cause problems when not used up quickly. Ethanol is hygroscopic, which means it has a tendency to absorb water. When ethanol absorbs water, it readily separates from gasoline and, because it is heavier, falls to the bottom of the tank. The ethanol/water mixture in the bottom of the tank degrades relatively quickly.

When a mixture of water and ethanol degrades and creates gums, varnish and other insoluble debris, fuel flow passages can become narrow or plug, significantly affecting engine performance.

sadams · 08-30-2010, 06:52 PM

im going to put battery on charger tonight and is there something to put in fuel to clean injectors thats safe for it?

**toodeep** · 08-30-2010, 06:58 PM

If it's a fuel issue most likely it's the fuel filter giving you problems. With the codes and the ES system though it sounds electrical but could be both.

2003 foreman es · 08-30-2010, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZ71

While you might have put in fresh gas in tank, problem might be between tank the engine. Carb or injectors gumed up.

Any fuel containing ethanol can cause problems when not used up quickly. Ethanol is hygroscopic, which means it has a tendency to absorb water. When ethanol absorbs water, it readily separates from gasoline and, because it is heavier, falls to the bottom of the tank. The ethanol/water mixture in the bottom of the tank degrades relatively quickly.

When a mixture of water and ethanol degrades and creates gums, varnish and other insoluble debris, fuel flow passages can become narrow or plug, significantly affecting engine performance.

That IS the best definition for a carb in need of a good cleaning....

sadams · 08-30-2010, 10:03 PM

ok i took fuel pump off and looked at filter and its a dark color so im going to get one tommorrow. Is dark color normal for filter?

08-29-2010, 12:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
sadams Honda Rider Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8	08 Rancher420 dies when you push on the gas My rancher will idle all day but when you try to go it dies. its been sitting for about two months. The same gas has been in it for over six months. does anyone have idea how to fix problem?

08-29-2010, 09:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gauntlet3D Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: May 2010 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,105	I could be bad gas. I would check the battery cables first though. __________________ 2009 Rubicon Black 350 Miles 2500lbs Warn ITP 212 Machined SS Rims 27" Maxxis Zillas 2" Gorilla Lift Richocett Swing Arm Skid Plate 2" Snorkle HMF Swamp Series UniFilter Rejet Custom Speaker Box Powermadd Black Hand Guards Ammo cans 2007 Rancher ES Red 750 Miles ITP 108 Machined SS Rims Rubicon stock tires Powermadd Black Hand Guards 2 Up Rear Box

08-30-2010, 01:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
ZZ71 Honda Rider Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Copper Country/Michigan UP Posts: 96	While you might have put in fresh gas in tank, problem might be between tank the engine. Carb or injectors gumed up. Any fuel containing ethanol can cause problems when not used up quickly. Ethanol is hygroscopic, which means it has a tendency to absorb water. When ethanol absorbs water, it readily separates from gasoline and, because it is heavier, falls to the bottom of the tank. The ethanol/water mixture in the bottom of the tank degrades relatively quickly. When a mixture of water and ethanol degrades and creates gums, varnish and other insoluble debris, fuel flow passages can become narrow or plug, significantly affecting engine performance. __________________ Mike 2006 Honda Rincon 680 2010 GMC Sierra Z71 All Terrain Last edited by ZZ71; 08-30-2010 at 01:20 PM.

08-29-2010, 01:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
sadams Honda Rider Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8	The cables are tight. I drained gas and put new in and same problem. the FI light blinks 1 and then 8 times. It also will not go into gear it must have safety thing on it to not let me. it is electric shift

08-30-2010, 02:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
sadams Honda Rider Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8	will angel sensor make it die? because i can not get it to go into gear.

08-30-2010, 11:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
toodeep Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: south dakota Posts: 6,427	How's the battery? The codes are for low/high voltage to the TP and Map sensors. A low/dead battery will also effect the shifting.

08-30-2010, 06:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
sadams Honda Rider Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8	im going to put battery on charger tonight and is there something to put in fuel to clean injectors thats safe for it?

08-30-2010, 06:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
toodeep Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: south dakota Posts: 6,427	If it's a fuel issue most likely it's the fuel filter giving you problems. With the codes and the ES system though it sounds electrical but could be both.

08-30-2010, 10:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
sadams Honda Rider Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8	ok i took fuel pump off and looked at filter and its a dark color so im going to get one tommorrow. Is dark color normal for filter?

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