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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-01-2010, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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rear brakes need adjusting//how??

Are the rear brakes on a rancher as easy as just turning the wing nuts in to tighten them up. The fronts will stop me on a dime but the rears either need to be adjusted or replaced

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My 03 foreman es has adjusting wing nuts, inside of the right rear tire.
1 for the front,1 for the rear brakes. Just turn the adjuster so the rear tire spins a couple of times freely, then stops.( have to lift the rear of the bike). If the brakes need to be replaced, check out cheapcycleparts.com for a diagram of your rear brake system. Good luck...

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The top nut is for the park brake and the bottom is for the foot brake.
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park brake works fine.
I had my son pull in on the hand brake and the indicator is no where near the little triangle indicating that they need replacement.
Do I turn that bottom wing nut to adjust it on does it only control how much play is on the foot pedal and does not tighten up the brake itself???

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The hand lever and foot pedal actuate the same lever on the brake. There's no overall adjustment on the brake shoe lever, only the amount of free play in the cables for the hand lever and pedal. As stated above, the top wing nut adjusts the freeplay in the hand lever. This should be adjusted to give the lever a freeplay of 9/16" to 13/16" when measured from the end of the lever. The bottom wing nut adjusts the freeplay in the brake pedal. This should be adjusted to give you the same amount of freeplay as the hand lever when measured from the end of the brake pedal.

If the freeplay on both levers is set and the brake shoe wear indicator does not indicate worn brake shoes (as you've stated), the only other thing I can think of that would degrade your rear braking is water trapped in the drum. You can check this by pulling the drain bolt on the bottom/inside of the drum. If water comes out, then you probably need new seals.

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The hand lever and foot pedal actuate the same lever on the brake. There's no overall adjustment on the brake shoe lever, only the amount of free play in the cables for the hand lever and pedal. As stated above, the top wing nut adjusts the freeplay in the hand lever. This should be adjusted to give the lever a freeplay of 9/16" to 13/16" when measured from the end of the lever. The bottom wing nut adjusts the freeplay in the brake pedal. This should be adjusted to give you the same amount of freeplay as the hand lever when measured from the end of the brake pedal.

If the freeplay on both levers is set and the brake shoe wear indicator does not indicate worn brake shoes (as you've stated), the only other thing I can think of that would degrade your rear braking is water trapped in the drum. You can check this by pulling the drain bolt on the bottom/inside of the drum. If water comes out, then you probably need new seals.

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Thanks for the hint. I will check it today

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Bringing this topic back to the top...
'06 Foreman
Rear brakes need to be adjusted,
But the wing nut is frozen / rusted in place on the threaded stud.
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Any suggestions on freeing up the wing nut..?
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Bringing this topic back to the top...
'06 Foreman
Rear brakes need to be adjusted,
But the wing nut is frozen / rusted in place on the threaded stud.
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Any suggestions on freeing up the wing nut..?
I like Kroil. A 50/50 mix of acetone & ATF will work, if you can't find Kroil. Soak it overnight and use heat on the nut if you have to. Coat it with LPS-3 or similar to keep from rusting again.

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Clean as much of the treads as you can first with a wire brush, or wire wheel, .
I would also add something to the above that was never mentioned.
Brake pads can get glazed over, and then they will not work as well.
They can be cleaned with sandpaper to deglaze them.
Most brake issues I find are from lack of folks cleaning them every so often and waiting till there is an issue, rather than doing a PM. On them once in a while. A few minutes once or twice a yr, can save a lot of time trying to fix a bigger issue ?
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Thanks Guys..!
Kroil is a staple in my garage, as is acidtone & atf ,
The kroil worked out well this morning, sprayed it on and about 15 minutes later was able to turn the wing nuts by hand.
While I was at it, took the cover off the rear drum, all was good inside, not grazed , put everything back together and adjusted the brakes.
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