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Old 05-22-2011, 09:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The next time you gota take your rear brakes apart because the cam is frozen try this. When you get the rear apart, drill a hole with a #3 drill bit ($3.52) (look in the picture for location) Then tap the hole with a 1/4x28 tap ($4.32) (MAKE SURE YOU DRILL AND TAP IT CENTERED OR GREASE GUN WONT FIT).Then screw in a grease (zerk)fitting and put it all back together and give it 2 or 3 pumps. (dont pump it more then 3 times because you dont want to get grease in the rear breaks) Then when you do your next oil change just give it a pump or two of grease . i did this 7 months ago and havent had any problems so far .SOOOOOOO for short money you too can have rear brakes ........RICH PS if you ride swamps and deep water grease it more often and use a good red "sticky" grease

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Old 05-22-2011, 09:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool idea

What is causing it to seize up on ya? Lack of use or does mud/moisture get to it and fills up with grit?

I haven't had problems with my 08 500, but they look the same.

Does the shaft(steel) go thru the aluminum and wear it out, causing grit to get in there? Can't believe there would be a bushing to wear on.

If it is a common problem, maybe I should tear mine down and and use anti-seize on it before it locks up. I do use my wheeler at least once a week all year long, farming, playing, and snow removal.

I use my rear brakes more than the fronts because the **** fronts squeal like a car without anti squeal on the back of the pads. Maybe I need to tear them down and use silicone grease on the back of the pads.

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Old 05-22-2011, 09:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the rear cam seizing is one of the BIGGIST problems on the hondas the cam (steel) and the backing plate (aluminum)dont play well together lol
there is no bushing that the shaft goes threw (just aluminum thats the problem)
i wouldnt use antisize , it kinda hardens up and then the brakes stick
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great write up man!!!
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Can you use marine grease instead of regular grease? I would think with the water and mud the marine grease would hold up better. Looks good. I'll have to try this on my cousins atv. Even if it was possible to put an oil light bushing in the rear brake panel to keep the cam lubed.
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u can use marine grease. i use it on everything that needs greased. it holds up alot better
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Can you use marine grease instead of regular grease? I would think with the water and mud the marine grease would hold up better. Looks good. I'll have to try this on my cousins atv. Even if it was possible to put an oil light bushing in the rear brake panel to keep the cam lubed.
yea marine grease will work good. the pic that i took was on a rancher 350 ,but i have also done this on a 450 foreman,500 foreman, and a 400 foreman . ......RICH
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Don't take this as a diss, Rich, but I don't see what the problem is.

I was worried that my "time was coming" with the "stuck" brake cam. I was on a small incline while I was filling the atv sprayer two years ago with water and chemicals, so I sat the parking brake so it wouldn't roll. Long story short I didn't release the brake, pulled hard, but for some reason I blamed the extra weight on the back. I smelt that familiar clucth/brake odor. I realized what I had done, felt the aluminium backing plate and couldn't keep my hand on it.

Tore it down last night figuring I would find rock hard seals and no grease except at the bottom of the drum.

Wrong, it looked brand new, minus 4 years of use brake dust. Maybe enough dust to fill a old school pop bottle lid.

This machine will wade across a 3' deep by 20' wide creek during the irrigation season 4 times a day, splash thru axle high mud holes 20 times a day during the same season, dragging the skid plates the whole time.

I could not believe the condition the rear brake was in, the cam still had a coat of clean oil on the whole shaft, cleaned an re grease/oiled everything up for the next four years. I could not believe that little cotton spacer/ k&n pre filter thingy was clean let alone reusable. What is it's designed job? Oiled it up and I'm back in business.

The foot brake lever? Well that is a whole different story. I swear that did not get any assembely grease during the build process. But it is good to go now! :>)

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Not a diss at all gayle ive seen them like that after 10 years. But all hondas arent taken care of the same way. I have owned 2 2000 foreman 450. The first one i got was out in the rivers and streams all its life and the guy said the rear brakes didnt worke since 2005 . The rear cam was frozen bad it took me 4 hours to just get it to move and another 2hours to get it removed . So a few months later i sold it and bought my current 450 , this one was stored its whole life in a garage and never saw the abuse that my 1st one had . When i got it home i realy checked it over good and the rear brakes worked well and the cam moved freely .I took it apart (the brakes)and greased it any way and it was just as you described yours .I wrote the thred for a "how too" so if a persons cam is frozen a way to prevent it from freezen again or to prevent it from happenen in the first place ...........RICH
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My 06 still works like a charm also even after 8300+ miles and I have also forgot the parking brake on a few times and driven with it on. Lots of swamp miles also.
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