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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 04:36 PM
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jonah, you either have a bad mini rocker switch or contactor. You have to wires going to the contactor from the mini rocker switch. One will have power when your pushing the rocker switch one direction (lets say in) and the other will have power when pushing it the other (out). If they are both getting power at the contactor when they are suppose to then you have a bad contactor.

okay so its probably the switch. Then what would be the problem with no lights absolutley nothing turning on when i turn the key? is the ignition fried? or do i need that little AC autlet plug with the red wire attached to it for the winch switch because i think that is something to do with the ignition?
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Have you checked the fuses?



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Have you checked the fuses?
yes the fuses are fine, i was just trying to jump start my 2007 honda rubicon 500 fga with a 2009 yamaha kodiak 350 and when i left the the kodiak running and had the jumper cables hooked up for a bit the kodiak died... does that mean i need to use my vehicle which is a ford escape 2005 to jump start my 2007 honda rubicon 500 fga because the battery is so dead and only is 3 days old its completely brand new.
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Do you have a lower amp (2-10) battery charger? If so unhook the winch wires from the battery and charge it back up. The lower amp charger would be the best but it's not as fast.

Do you have lights when you hooked up a jumper vehicle?



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no i do not have a 2-10 battery charger. so your saying i should unhook the winch power right from the battery and then try jumping the honda with the kodiak?
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Yes. Forget the winch at the moment on get the wheeler in top shape. It's possible you got a bad battery and that is giving winch problems OR your winch contactor is bad and giving you battery problems. You really need to get the battery charged though. The wheeler will only charge it to a certain point running it, never 100%.



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Yes. Forget the winch at the moment on get the wheeler in top shape. It's possible you got a bad battery and that is giving winch problems OR your winch contactor is bad and giving you battery problems. You really need to get the battery charged though. The wheeler will only charge it to a certain point running it, never 100%.
ok the battery is charging and its fine now. but to be honest i called honda and they said it would be the rocker switch because when i try to hit in its making a weird buzzing noise comming from the back of the ATV which would be the relay, The relay and winch is brand new. the winch goes out fine but does not go in. the switch is warn and the winch and relay is superwinch brand. All the wiring and the switch is warn, the relay and winch is superwinch, all brand new should i put all the wiring and the switch from the superwinch brand on??? or just the switch.
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Yes. Forget the winch at the moment on get the wheeler in top shape. It's possible you got a bad battery and that is giving winch problems OR your winch contactor is bad and giving you battery problems. You really need to get the battery charged though. The wheeler will only charge it to a certain point running it, never 100%.

okay tell me about the rocker switch why would the out be working and the in not? and the new one i am about to put in. what ignition coloured wire does the little red wire on the rocker switch go to connect to?
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It gets the power form the red wire that you want to hook up (if you want it keyed power hook it to the pink wire on the ignition switch) and it depends on which way you pushing the button as to which of the 2 wires going to the contactor gets power.

Simply if it works in one direction and not the other either

A. The switch is not making contact in that direction.

B. You have a bad wire going to the contactor

C. The contactor is bad

It is really simple to test with a $2 test light. Unplug the wires from the contactor and see if your getting power when pushing the button one way or the other. One wire will have power when pushing the switch in the "out" position and the other wire will have power when pushing the switch in the "in" position.

If you are getting power to both of those wires when working the switch the switch is good. If not then the switch is bad.



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It gets the power form the red wire that you want to hook up (if you want it keyed power hook it to the pink wire on the ignition switch) and it depends on which way you pushing the button as to which of the 2 wires going to the contactor gets power.

Simply if it works in one direction and not the other either

A. The switch is not making contact in that direction.

B. You have a bad wire going to the contactor

C. The contactor is bad

It is really simple to test with a $2 test light. Unplug the wires from the contactor and see if your getting power when pushing the button one way or the other. One wire will have power when pushing the switch in the "out" position and the other wire will have power when pushing the switch in the "in" position.

If you are getting power to both of those wires when working the switch the switch is good. If not then the switch is bad.



okay so when i cut that pink wire there will be no power to the ignition correct? nothing will show then when i took up the little red wire to the ignition pink wire on the switch not the other side of the pink wire the one on the switch it will get power and work?
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