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Cat650H12007 · 09-22-2011, 08:10 PM

So my underpowered (2000lb) rusty lined, abused, cheap azz superwinch snapped the cable and wont reel itself out....Anyway I'm going to upgrade and I an in a quandry And Ill say for the neglect and submerges of the non waterproof Superwinch she served me well RIP.

I really like the Viper winches the best, but are they as good (better) then the Warns??

Advantages disadvantages of Steel vs Synthetic line (other then rust of course)

And are all the Vipers waterproof, or just the Elite????? Cause if the classic is waterproof for what I do I'd be perfect (not a big mud hole rider so I don;t get stuck too often).

Thankzz

Green Demon · 09-22-2011, 08:28 PM

I have the Viper Max 3500. I love it. It's been under water many times and it's still working like new. Some people have good luck and bad luck with both warn and viper. I think it's all in what you do with it. (dont try to pull a house down) One thing you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to get is the synthetic cable. Best 50-60 bucks spent. I love that thing.

Cat650H12007 · 09-22-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Demon

I have the Viper Max 3500. I love it. It's been under water many times and it's still working like new. Some people have good luck and bad luck with both warn and viper. I think it's all in what you do with it. (dont try to pull a house down) One thing you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to get is the synthetic cable. Best 50-60 bucks spent. I love that thing.

Cool. How is the freewheel on it??/ I've noticed on the Superwinch it could be a pain in the azz to unlock sometimes. 3500lbs though?? isn't that a lil extreme???

Green Demon · 09-22-2011, 11:07 PM

The freewheel always worked flawlessly for me even when caked with dry mud. Na the 3500 is good for me cause I ride with RZR's, Brutes etc. sometimes I need it. Plus when I was buying I told myself better to have and not need, than need and not have

vermhot · 09-22-2011, 11:10 PM

thous are good words to live by!!!

szembek · 09-22-2011, 11:47 PM

I went with a superwinch 3000lb. It has a similar freespool knob to the other winches, not like the cheesy one on the SW 2000lb. The main reason I went with it was it was the cheapest winch that came with an actual mechanical brake, and it drew far less amperage than promark or Venom. I didn't research the Viper brand specifically though. Nice thing about the superwinch was a longer warranty than the eBay brands too. Like I said, not sure where Viper fits in the spectrum. If you aren't going to plow you probably don't need a mechanical brake like I did either.

wydglide · 09-23-2011, 04:13 AM

some things I learned the hard way about Winchs.....being Cool or expansive does not make for a better winch.

Their is no such thing as too big of a winch "IF" you need it or a friend needs it more than you!

And even some of the 3000LB winch's can have plastic castings (housing).....cast metal is at the forefront of my next winch when I need one!

a winch plate that bolts (directly to the frame in the Rear-minimum) preferable front & rear ......learned that lesson the hard way

And buying off eBay is cheaper for all brands, the down side-short Warranty's

szembek · 09-23-2011, 08:44 AM

For your battery's sake check the amperage draw for the different brands. In my research some brands were drawing DOUBLE the current for the same speed. Maybe not a concern for everyone, but with this ES shifting and the up/down of my plow it matters a lot for me.

rich450es · 09-23-2011, 08:50 AM

i had a 2000# super winch and it was a total POS so i happend to see a 2500# warn winch on craigs list for $100 and it was in perfect shape . im sold on the warn but will never buy one new (im to cheep for that lol)

Kipes · 09-23-2011, 02:33 PM

Heres one I bought but I havent mounted it yet. It has good reviews though.
Grip - On Tools 3,000 - Lb. Atv Winch, Atv, Grip, Grip-On Tools at Sportsman's Guide

09-22-2011, 08:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cat650H12007 Honda Rider Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 42	Winches, Winches, Everywhere!!! So my underpowered (2000lb) rusty lined, abused, cheap azz superwinch snapped the cable and wont reel itself out....Anyway I'm going to upgrade and I an in a quandry And Ill say for the neglect and submerges of the non waterproof Superwinch she served me well RIP. I really like the Viper winches the best, but are they as good (better) then the Warns?? Advantages disadvantages of Steel vs Synthetic line (other then rust of course) And are all the Vipers waterproof, or just the Elite????? Cause if the classic is waterproof for what I do I'd be perfect (not a big mud hole rider so I don;t get stuck too often). Thankzz

09-22-2011, 08:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Green Demon Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oberlin, LA Posts: 561	I have the Viper Max 3500. I love it. It's been under water many times and it's still working like new. Some people have good luck and bad luck with both warn and viper. I think it's all in what you do with it. (dont try to pull a house down) One thing you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to get is the synthetic cable. Best 50-60 bucks spent. I love that thing. __________________ 09 Foreman ES Snorkled HMF Utility EPI Clutch Kit 2" highlifter lift Turner HD U-joint HL Fender Kit HL Recoil starter leak shield Diamond Plate HL front nose guard Diamond Plate front bash plate Diamond Plate front cv guards 29.5 OUTLAWS S/W SS 312 Wheels Extreme 35% Gear Reduction 8" audiopipe with 350 watt amp Viper 3500# winch w/ synthetic cable

09-22-2011, 11:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Green Demon Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oberlin, LA Posts: 561	The freewheel always worked flawlessly for me even when caked with dry mud. Na the 3500 is good for me cause I ride with RZR's, Brutes etc. sometimes I need it. Plus when I was buying I told myself better to have and not need, than need and not have __________________ 09 Foreman ES Snorkled HMF Utility EPI Clutch Kit 2" highlifter lift Turner HD U-joint HL Fender Kit HL Recoil starter leak shield Diamond Plate HL front nose guard Diamond Plate front bash plate Diamond Plate front cv guards 29.5 OUTLAWS S/W SS 312 Wheels Extreme 35% Gear Reduction 8" audiopipe with 350 watt amp Viper 3500# winch w/ synthetic cable

09-22-2011, 11:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
vermhot Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,605	thous are good words to live by!!! __________________ 05 Green Foreman DGL,2"SS-Lift Plano green hunting box heated hand grips and thumb warmer carb mod ,Kolpin hitch,GPS bracket rattle can camo stock rims with 28" Zillas 11 Green Rubicon Gscape,power steer Warn 2500,Cycle Country 54" blade crappy stock tiers Kolpin hitch http://youtu.be/i9MhWDPUDHo

09-23-2011, 04:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
wydglide Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: your Nightmares Posts: 5,480	some things I learned the hard way about Winchs.....being Cool or expansive does not make for a better winch. Their is no such thing as too big of a winch "IF" you need it or a friend needs it more than you! And even some of the 3000LB winch's can have plastic castings (housing).....cast metal is at the forefront of my next winch when I need one! a winch plate that bolts (directly to the frame in the Rear-minimum) preferable front & rear ......learned that lesson the hard way And buying off eBay is cheaper for all brands, the down side-short Warranty's __________________ P.M. Campbell Co Lodge F&AM #778 99Yamaha Wolverine 06 Foreman TRX500 09 Foreman TRX500 "Trail Dancer" 25" Big Horn's Mad Dog Rear Bag Body Armor Bash Plate Gamin 76CSx GPS, W/RAM Mount Warn XT25 conversion to XT30 Glide Build Audio System Serious case of BGD I'm not Frugal, I'm a COB...(Cheap old B@stard) Last edited by wydglide; 09-23-2011 at 04:14 AM. Reason: CRS!

09-22-2011, 11:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
szembek Honda Lover Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NY Posts: 251	I went with a superwinch 3000lb. It has a similar freespool knob to the other winches, not like the cheesy one on the SW 2000lb. The main reason I went with it was it was the cheapest winch that came with an actual mechanical brake, and it drew far less amperage than promark or Venom. I didn't research the Viper brand specifically though. Nice thing about the superwinch was a longer warranty than the eBay brands too. Like I said, not sure where Viper fits in the spectrum. If you aren't going to plow you probably don't need a mechanical brake like I did either.

09-23-2011, 08:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
szembek Honda Lover Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NY Posts: 251	For your battery's sake check the amperage draw for the different brands. In my research some brands were drawing DOUBLE the current for the same speed. Maybe not a concern for everyone, but with this ES shifting and the up/down of my plow it matters a lot for me.

09-23-2011, 08:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,614	i had a 2000# super winch and it was a total POS so i happend to see a 2500# warn winch on craigs list for $100 and it was in perfect shape . im sold on the warn but will never buy one new (im to cheep for that lol) __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

09-23-2011, 02:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kipes Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: May 2009 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan Posts: 2,592	Heres one I bought but I havent mounted it yet. It has good reviews though. Grip - On Tools 3,000 - Lb. Atv Winch, Atv, Grip, Grip-On Tools at Sportsman's Guide __________________ 2006 Foreman 4x4 500s Powermadd handguards 2.5 Warn winch 2" Perfex long travel lift kit High Lifter springs 26-12-12 Executioners on rear 26-10-12 Executioners on front Douglas Rattlesnake rims 3rd Headlight switch Moose Heated Handgrips and thumb warmer Garmin Legend gps Replaced the stock silver engine covers and front skid plate with 07 camo black and painted front brush guard black 2005 Rancher 350ES 2wd 2001 Polaris 325 Trailboss 2wd

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