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Duke70 · 07-30-2009, 03:32 AM

This was sent to me from my Dad and I thought I would share it with all of you, and PLEASE feel free to pass this on to all your friends & family

As we all know everything you buy these days has a WARNING LABEL on it

So PLEASE read all WARNING LABELS so this doesn't happen to you or your Loved 1's

This link is to a story that a guy wrote up after this happened and it almost killed him

He was kind enough to share his Mistake by posting it on the Internet so it doesn't happen
to anyone else

http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

desert dawg · 07-30-2009, 09:11 AM

Good heads up.
thanks.............

redcrew71 · 07-30-2009, 10:24 AM

not to be ignorant...but...okay...so I will...but what is up with common sense these days....we have chemicals around us all the time and yes read the label...know what you are using. I find it disturbing that he states he "sprays solvent down then uses the torch to burn it off"....wow....do you really think that is smart...so lets spray some brake cleaner chemical down...that I know removes paint...and put a torch to it to burn it off.

Kind of the same reason when you have a bbq you would not use painted wood, pressure treated wood, etc. Who knows what fumes you would get.
Glad he is okay...and gives a warning out but yes...some people will do things they should not.

Duke70 · 12-18-2009, 09:45 PM

I wanted to add this in with the warning labels that I posted a good while back

Like all of Y'all I to weld and my 17 yr old niece thats right my Niece is taking welding in high school

Here is the link that I copied this from if y'all would like some more INFO

http://www.elcosh.org/en/document/38/d0000...ding-fumes.html

Welding produces metal fumes and gases that can make you sick. The hazard depends on:

•The welding method (such as MIG, TIG, or stick)
•What the welding rod (electrode) is made of
•Filler metals and base metals (such as mild steel and stainless steel)
•Paints and other coatings on the metals being welded
•Ventilation.
The Hazards

In confined spaces, welding can be deadly. Without enough ventilation, toxic fumes and gases can be much stronger. Shielding gases, like argon, can displace the oxygen and kill you.

METALS. These are some of the toxic metals:

•Stainless steel contains nickel and chromium, which can cause asthma. Nickel and chromium 6 can cause cancer. Chromium can cause sinus problems and “holes” between the nostrils.
•Carbon steel contains more manganese than some other metals do. Manganese can cause Parkinson’s disease, which cripples the nerves and muscles.
•Zinc in galvanized metal or in paint can cause metal fume fever. It feels like the flu and goes away in a few hours or days after exposure ends.
COATINGS and RESIDUES
•Lead (in some paints) can cause lead poisoning — headaches, sore muscles and joints, nausea, stomach cramps, irritability, memory loss, anemia, and kidney and nervous system damage. If lead dust goes home on work clothes/shoes, it can make your family sick, most of all your children.
•Cadmium (in some paints and fillers) can cause kidney problems and cancer.
•Other coatings may contain isocyanates, which can cause asthma; one type (TDI) may cause cancer.

SOLVENTS
•Welding through or near some (chlorinated) solvents can produce phosgene, a poisonous gas. The gas can cause fluid in the lungs. You may not notice the problem until hours after you quit welding. But fluid in your lungs can kill you.

GASES
•When carbon dioxide is used for shielding, carbon monoxide can form and kill you. Carbon monoxide can form also in oxyacetylene welding.
•The welding arc can form ozone and nitrogen oxides from the air. MIG and TIG welding make the most ozone, most of all when aluminum is welded. These fumes irritate the eyes, ear, nose, throat, and lungs and can damage the lungs.
•Some nitrogen oxides can cause fluid in the lungs.

Protect Yourself

All gases, fumes, and vapors that come from metal, paints, fluxes, degreasers, rods during welding are covered by the OSHA hazcom standard. So, your employer must train you about the risks and show you material safety data sheets (MSDSs) about any of the chemicals, if you ask. Also:

•OSHA says you must remove all paint and solvents before welding or torch cutting. Make sure all residues are removed.
•Use the safest welding method for the job. Stick welding makes much less fume than flux core welding.
•Use welding rods that produce a low fume. 90% of the fume can come from the rod. Welding guns that extract fumes can capture 95% of the fume.
•In a confined space, follow all the OSHA confined-space rules — like air monitoring, not storing torches in the space, and ventilation.
•OSHA says you must have good ventilation.
•Use local-exhaust ventilation to remove fumes and gases at their source in still air. Keep the exhaust hood opening 4” to 6” from the fume source even when you are not in a confined space.
•Use air blowers to blow fumes away from you when you are outdoors and it’s windy.
•Keep your face far from the welding plume.
•If you are not sure the ventilation is good, use a respirator. If respirators are used, OSHA says your employer must have a full respiratory protection program. This means proper selection and fitting of respirators, medical screening to be sure a worker can wear a respirator, and worker training. Correct respirator storage and cleaning and an evaluation of the program are needed.
•If you smoke, quit.
OSHA has limits for exposure to metals, gases, and total fumes during welding. But these limits may not protect you enough, because they are out of date. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) says welding fumes may cause cancer, so keep the fume levels as low as possible.

07-30-2009, 03:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Duke70 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 454	This was sent to me from my Dad and I thought I would share it with all of you, and PLEASE feel free to pass this on to all your friends & family As we all know everything you buy these days has a WARNING LABEL on it So PLEASE read all WARNING LABELS so this doesn't happen to you or your Loved 1's This link is to a story that a guy wrote up after this happened and it almost killed him He was kind enough to share his Mistake by posting it on the Internet so it doesn't happen to anyone else http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm Attached Thumbnails __________________ To all members PLEASE add your location to your profile 06 Honda Foreman 500s 30'' Mudlites HL Springs & 2'' SS lift front 01 450 swingarm custom lift rear Custom Built Snorkel & Powder Coated 2500 Warn Winch Warn Front Bumper Benson Rear Bumper 170 main-jet & 48 slow-jet K&N air & oil filters Powder Coating http://www.pcitdad.com/ Rear Lift for Swing-arm Conversion 450 arm on a 500 http://www.pcitdad.com/lift-kit.html

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redcrew71 Honda Lover Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Moose Jaw , Sask Posts: 386	not to be ignorant...but...okay...so I will...but what is up with common sense these days....we have chemicals around us all the time and yes read the label...know what you are using. I find it disturbing that he states he "sprays solvent down then uses the torch to burn it off"....wow....do you really think that is smart...so lets spray some brake cleaner chemical down...that I know removes paint...and put a torch to it to burn it off. Kind of the same reason when you have a bbq you would not use painted wood, pressure treated wood, etc. Who knows what fumes you would get. Glad he is okay...and gives a warning out but yes...some people will do things they should not. __________________ 2008 Foreman 500 4x4 Power steering 26x10x12 Mudlite XL Front 26x12x12 Mudlite XL Back Warn 2500 Winch Iridium Plug Mossy Oak Breakup camo accents Mossy Oak Breakup camo rack bags Quadivator Plow

12-18-2009, 09:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Duke70 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 454	I wanted to add this in with the warning labels that I posted a good while back Like all of Y'all I to weld and my 17 yr old niece thats right my Niece is taking welding in high school Here is the link that I copied this from if y'all would like some more INFO http://www.elcosh.org/en/document/38/d0000...ding-fumes.html Welding produces metal fumes and gases that can make you sick. The hazard depends on: •The welding method (such as MIG, TIG, or stick) •What the welding rod (electrode) is made of •Filler metals and base metals (such as mild steel and stainless steel) •Paints and other coatings on the metals being welded •Ventilation. The Hazards In confined spaces, welding can be deadly. Without enough ventilation, toxic fumes and gases can be much stronger. Shielding gases, like argon, can displace the oxygen and kill you. METALS. These are some of the toxic metals: •Stainless steel contains nickel and chromium, which can cause asthma. Nickel and chromium 6 can cause cancer. Chromium can cause sinus problems and “holes” between the nostrils. •Carbon steel contains more manganese than some other metals do. Manganese can cause Parkinson’s disease, which cripples the nerves and muscles. •Zinc in galvanized metal or in paint can cause metal fume fever. It feels like the flu and goes away in a few hours or days after exposure ends. COATINGS and RESIDUES •Lead (in some paints) can cause lead poisoning — headaches, sore muscles and joints, nausea, stomach cramps, irritability, memory loss, anemia, and kidney and nervous system damage. If lead dust goes home on work clothes/shoes, it can make your family sick, most of all your children. •Cadmium (in some paints and fillers) can cause kidney problems and cancer. •Other coatings may contain isocyanates, which can cause asthma; one type (TDI) may cause cancer. SOLVENTS •Welding through or near some (chlorinated) solvents can produce phosgene, a poisonous gas. The gas can cause fluid in the lungs. You may not notice the problem until hours after you quit welding. But fluid in your lungs can kill you. GASES •When carbon dioxide is used for shielding, carbon monoxide can form and kill you. Carbon monoxide can form also in oxyacetylene welding. •The welding arc can form ozone and nitrogen oxides from the air. MIG and TIG welding make the most ozone, most of all when aluminum is welded. These fumes irritate the eyes, ear, nose, throat, and lungs and can damage the lungs. •Some nitrogen oxides can cause fluid in the lungs. Protect Yourself All gases, fumes, and vapors that come from metal, paints, fluxes, degreasers, rods during welding are covered by the OSHA hazcom standard. So, your employer must train you about the risks and show you material safety data sheets (MSDSs) about any of the chemicals, if you ask. Also: •OSHA says you must remove all paint and solvents before welding or torch cutting. Make sure all residues are removed. •Use the safest welding method for the job. Stick welding makes much less fume than flux core welding. •Use welding rods that produce a low fume. 90% of the fume can come from the rod. Welding guns that extract fumes can capture 95% of the fume. •In a confined space, follow all the OSHA confined-space rules — like air monitoring, not storing torches in the space, and ventilation. •OSHA says you must have good ventilation. •Use local-exhaust ventilation to remove fumes and gases at their source in still air. Keep the exhaust hood opening 4” to 6” from the fume source even when you are not in a confined space. •Use air blowers to blow fumes away from you when you are outdoors and it’s windy. •Keep your face far from the welding plume. •If you are not sure the ventilation is good, use a respirator. If respirators are used, OSHA says your employer must have a full respiratory protection program. This means proper selection and fitting of respirators, medical screening to be sure a worker can wear a respirator, and worker training. Correct respirator storage and cleaning and an evaluation of the program are needed. •If you smoke, quit. OSHA has limits for exposure to metals, gases, and total fumes during welding. But these limits may not protect you enough, because they are out of date. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) says welding fumes may cause cancer, so keep the fume levels as low as possible. __________________ To all members PLEASE add your location to your profile 06 Honda Foreman 500s 30'' Mudlites HL Springs & 2'' SS lift front 01 450 swingarm custom lift rear Custom Built Snorkel & Powder Coated 2500 Warn Winch Warn Front Bumper Benson Rear Bumper 170 main-jet & 48 slow-jet K&N air & oil filters Powder Coating http://www.pcitdad.com/ Rear Lift for Swing-arm Conversion 450 arm on a 500 http://www.pcitdad.com/lift-kit.html

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