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craigmac · 02-17-2013, 08:09 AM

Thanks for the info guys!

craigmac · 02-17-2013, 10:25 AM

. I read on here also to do a diesel flush...how do I do that? Do I run it with diesel in the crankcase or just flush it thru the motor?

nsforeman · 02-17-2013, 11:43 AM

do not do the diesel flush! Just get some cheap oil and keep changing.

robert carter · 02-17-2013, 03:33 PM

What's wrong with doing a half/half diesel and oil flush? I would think the diesel would break up any dirt in the motor to help flush that all out.

LostForemanRider · 02-17-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by robert carter

What's wrong with doing a half/half diesel and oil flush? I would think the diesel would break up any dirt in the motor to help flush that all out.

Maybe, but I've never had a problem flushing engines with just oil. You gotta remember, oil is designed to trap dirt and debris and contain it within the oil, so that when you drain the oil, it takes all the dirt and debris with it.

chuckb · 02-18-2013, 05:45 PM

you'll get milkshakes for quite a few oil changes still.

craigmac · 02-18-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LostForemanRider

If the oil is still milky, keep changing it until you get dark, clean oil coming out. What we used to do with airplanes was use a oil drum and pump, but not sure that would work here. Just keep changing until it's not milky any more. Then you should drive it for awhile and check it again. If it's still not milky, it's good to go.

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Originally Posted by chuckb

you'll get milkshakes for quite a few oil changes still.

I changed it 5 times and its finally starting to look normal ...I think I'm gonna ride it for an hour or so and change it again. If it starts to smoke or anything I guess its time for a big bore kit and cams! :-)

scottl1346 · 02-18-2013, 08:10 PM

iv done the diesel flush 3 times on my foreman never had any issues last time i drowned it was 2-1/2 yrs ago and its still going strong and doesn't smoke. i fill mine up with diesel run it for about 5 to 10 sec turn it off and drain. diesel has a high flash point it wont explode if you run it no more then 10 secs at a time and diesel has lubricating property's so it wont ruin bearings and other important parts. oils just to thick and doesn't get in all the tiny nooks and crevices very well. i also save 1 gal of my old honda oil to re use if this happens. i usually do 1 oil flush then 2 diesel flushes and 1 more oil flush then i change it with all new stuff. i do not use a new filter for every flush its pointless its going to catch the dirt regardless. others will disagree like always but this has worked for me and a few others and i haven't had to do a rebuild yet because i missed some dirty water. good luck hope this helps

coxhm26 · 02-19-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scottl1346

iv done the diesel flush 3 times on my foreman never had any issues last time i drowned it was 2-1/2 yrs ago and its still going strong and doesn't smoke. i fill mine up with diesel run it for about 5 to 10 sec turn it off and drain. diesel has a high flash point it wont explode if you run it no more then 10 secs at a time and diesel has lubricating property's so it wont ruin bearings and other important parts. oils just to thick and doesn't get in all the tiny nooks and crevices very well. i also save 1 gal of my old honda oil to re use if this happens. i usually do 1 oil flush then 2 diesel flushes and 1 more oil flush then i change it with all new stuff. i do not use a new filter for every flush its pointless its going to catch the dirt regardless. others will disagree like always but this has worked for me and a few others and i haven't had to do a rebuild yet because i missed some dirty water. good luck hope this helps

couldnt have said it better scott, We've even done diesel flushes on 420ats with the auto/es and never had a problem.

craigmac · 02-19-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by scottl1346

iv done the diesel flush 3 times on my foreman never had any issues last time i drowned it was 2-1/2 yrs ago and its still going strong and doesn't smoke. i fill mine up with diesel run it for about 5 to 10 sec turn it off and drain. diesel has a high flash point it wont explode if you run it no more then 10 secs at a time and diesel has lubricating property's so it wont ruin bearings and other important parts. oils just to thick and doesn't get in all the tiny nooks and crevices very well. i also save 1 gal of my old honda oil to re use if this happens. i usually do 1 oil flush then 2 diesel flushes and 1 more oil flush then i change it with all new stuff. i do not use a new filter for every flush its pointless its going to catch the dirt regardless. others will disagree like always but this has worked for me and a few others and i haven't had to do a rebuild yet because i missed some dirty water. good luck hope this helps

I think that I will do the diesel flush before I ride it then, than. Anyone got any other ideas why it may of cut off....there was an half of inch of water at the most in the air box,which probably got in there because it took maybe 10 minutes to get the bike out of the water. Water was up to the bottom of the gas tank when it died.

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02-17-2013, 08:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
craigmac Honda Rider Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NC Posts: 18	Thanks for the info guys!

02-17-2013, 10:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
craigmac Honda Rider Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NC Posts: 18	. I read on here also to do a diesel flush...how do I do that? Do I run it with diesel in the crankcase or just flush it thru the motor?

02-17-2013, 11:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
nsforeman Honda Rider Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: nova scotia Posts: 15	do not do the diesel flush! Just get some cheap oil and keep changing.

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