wydglide

since I undertook this endeavor to learn about Winch's, I always keep seeing posts on every one of the different manufactures sites about Winch's getting hot especially with Amsteel rope.......whats the deal?

is it the Drum that gets hot or Motor?

and is it better to run the line out a long ways for more power, if I read correctly you have more power with less line on the winch drum....it usually only takes a few feet to get somebody unstuck most of the time, not enough to over heat anything that I have experienced in the past year.


any feedback is welcome
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h22ate

QUOTE (wydglide @ Jan 24 2010, 10:55 PM) Well I do know the winch is at its highest potential when there are 1-2 wraps of cable left on the drum. As far as heat goes im sure it is motor heat they are talking about but here is a little piece of info I found out when talking to superwinch on the phone 2 weeks ago. I was asking the guy about running the synthetic cable on the ATV3000 that I had just recieved as a gift. The guy told me"do not do that, synthetic cable is very hard on the winch drum". I said really why is that? He told me that under different conditions wet, dry, hot, cold the synthetic cable will expand and contract thus resulting in the drum to crack or shatter! I was like no **** my buddies swear by the stuff and he simply said its hard on the winch and unless it came on the winch from the factory (it will have a reinforced drum) dont put it on. He then told me SW is coming out with a new line of winches that do infact have the reinforced drum and synthetic cable, its going to compete with the warn xt series.... But that drum will not fit on their current design because its a totally different set-up. Go figure I said and he just laughed and said "yea they get ya any chance they can". So the guy was really helpful and told me some goodies that I was unaware of, hope this helps!

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redcrew71

I call bs on that ^^ A lot of guys up here have switched over to synthetic lines...no problems

me personally have not yet. Just like a toe rope...as it gets wet and dirty it will deteriate.... cable will not.

The most efficient way to do your winch in operation is to use a pulley and double the pulling power. Their is a point where if you are using any winch for a long period of time it will get hot....the motor that is. In addition the more repeated use you use it the more it will take power out of your battery especially if you have your lights on.

unless your using your winch for hours each day I would not worry about things.....if you are using it for hours each day.....then find another route around your mud holes....lol

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h22ate

QUOTE (Redcrew71 @ Jan 24 2010, 11:41 PM) Thats kinda what I thought as well but I doubt he would have lied who knows. I couldnt see rope breaking the drum but then I thought about it.... 1st it is a cast drum. 2nd when you have a leather boot lace and it gets wet, when it dries your boot feels like its 3 sizes too small. The same goes for silk thats why it should be dry cleaned so in all actuallity it could happen.

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wydglide

Well WERE going to find out if it busts the Drum or not, if it does than EVERY winch maker on the market needs sued, something you could not prove unless you took video of every time you used your Winch.......not likely!

I am thinking Motor too but if you read on their sites it talks about the line can ( melt on the drum) I know things can get hot but if it gets hot enough to melt a line you need a bigger Winch period, or if your using it Constantly its just common since to let things cool down!....


well as I said this is an endeavor For me to Learn more & Share, So Ill put it to the Test!

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h22ate

It can MELT!? Now Ive heard of a mud bog from **** but.... melting your cable? That seems a little far fetched to me lol. If the winch got that hot to melt the rope then it would probably do some damage to the front plastic as well..... Yea it seems like they would have a pretty big law suit on their hands!

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toodeep

When my #4000 messed up it got hot, and I mean hot. So did my battery and the wiring. I wouldn't say the winch line (synthetic) melted but it was wound so tight it was a pain to get it back out. That winch was rebuilt (just the broken holders) and the same winch line is still used on it.

For those that don't know the story, I was riding through a pretty bad creak and my wheeler isn't exactly quiet. The contactor messed up and stuck on the winch in position and it pulled the winch off of the mount, breaking the holders. I didn't know anything was going on until I pulled up on a bank and the wheeler died, battery was completely dead and I was only running everything off of the stator. The low amperage everything was getting caused it to get very hot, plus the fact that the winch was pulling (or trying) and getting no where.