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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-13-2017, 06:06 PM Thread Starter
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So my buddy swamped his 17 foreman foot shift. Now it makes a hard ticking noise. I asked him how he got all the water out and he did everything right BUT didn't pull the spark plug when blowing the water out the exhaust. I'm pretty sure that is the problem but any suggestions would help


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OK< just to be clear,
the ONLY way to get a sunk motor RIGHT, is to drain oil, and SPLIT the cases and CLEAN the inside,
MY bet is he DIDN"T do this, when that water got in, it also brought in some crap, dirt sand or???

and after he DRAINED oil, or FLUSHED motor with what ever he used
it ALL didn't come out,
he re filled new oil, ran motor and that crap inside, worked its way into places it shouldn;t have been,
and now he has motor issue's
I'd start with a compression test, and see what its at now?

the name of the game when you sink a motor, is only ONE RIGHT way to resolve the issue's and again, that's splitting the cases and cleaning 100%,
anything Other than doing this, is a GAMBLE< it may work or not NOT.
its just how it is, NO short cuts that are fool proof?

SO< did he really do everything needed after sinking it??
I;m again, guessing NO he didn;t split the cases., so??
hence, where he's at now?

sorry NOT what you want to hear?

BUt possible issue's could be bend valve 's, or a top end on its way out!
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OK< just to be clear,
the ONLY way to get a sunk motor RIGHT, is to drain oil, and SPLIT the cases and CLEAN the inside,
MY bet is he DIDN"T do this, when that water got in, it also brought in some crap, dirt sand or???

and after he DRAINED oil, or FLUSHED motor with what ever he used
it ALL didn't come out,
he re filled new oil, ran motor and that crap inside, worked its way into places it shouldn;t have been,
and now he has motor issue's
I'd start with a compression test, and see what its at now?

the name of the game when you sink a motor, is only ONE RIGHT way to resolve the issue's and again, that's splitting the cases and cleaning 100%,
anything Other than doing this, is a GAMBLE< it may work or not NOT.
its just how it is, NO short cuts that are fool proof?

SO< did he really do everything needed after sinking it??
I;m again, guessing NO he didn;t split the cases., so??
hence, where he's at now?

sorry NOT what you want to hear?

BUt possible issue's could be bend valve 's, or a top end on its way out!


I know he drained the oil cycled oil through it until no more water was in oil. He said he done that 8-9 times. No he didn't split the casing as you mentioned we pulled valve cover gaskets to look at the rods and with the naked eye they wasn't bent so now he is kinda at a point where he thinks maybe the rocker arm?


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again, and NOT trying to be a smart AZZ, but flushing a motor will NEVER get everything out, its just not possible, so again, its a gamble at best when you flush
some folks win the lottery, some don't?
do a search on any atv forum about , folks needing a top end after riding after just flushing a sunk motor, I am sure you will find hundreds of them

SAME I am sure as you will find many guys that flush and have ZERO issue's
again, some folks win the lottery some DON"T
FEEL LUCKY LOL
as thats the game, as they say you have to PAY to play ??

if a valve is bent JUST a little it can tap, think about adjustments being done in thousandth's?

could be a rocker arm

but again, when water is IN a running motor, it can do a LOT of things FAST , or again, get lucky and NOT have any damage.

I am sure others will add more here, as there are way smarter repair guys here than me?

Best of luck and update as you find out what;s wrong!
its nice to have endings to things, so others can learn more?
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again, and NOT trying to be a smart AZZ, but flushing a motor will NEVER get everything out, its just not possible, so again, its a gamble at best when you flush
some folks win the lottery, some don't?
do a search on any atv forum about , folks needing a top end after riding after just flushing a sunk motor, I am sure you will find hundreds of them

SAME I am sure as you will find many guys that flush and have ZERO issue's
again, some folks win the lottery some DON"T
FEEL LUCKY LOL
as thats the game, as they say you have to PAY to play ??

if a valve is bent JUST a little it can tap, think about adjustments being done in thousandth's?

could be a rocker arm

but again, when water is IN a running motor, it can do a LOT of things FAST , or again, get lucky and NOT have any damage.

I am sure others will add more here, as there are way smarter repair guys here than me?

Best of luck and update as you find out what;s wrong!
its nice to have endings to things, so others can learn more?


Yes I understand where your coming from he didn't do it intentionally or playing around he tried to get out of the hole and it shut off on him and he left it **** off til he brought it home


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Update valves were checked and put to spec according to owners manual. Checked the push rods neither was bent. After valve adjustment it did quiet down but there is still a tick


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some honda ALWAYS have a tick, BUT if it wasn't there before things, then???

I would do a compression test NOW< and then in a few hrs and see if its dropping or holding steady, and then in say 40 hrs or so, check again, it will tell if your going south or not?/
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some honda ALWAYS have a tick, BUT if it wasn't there before things, then???

I would do a compression test NOW< and then in a few hrs and see if its dropping or holding steady, and then in say 40 hrs or so, check again, it will tell if your going south or not?/






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mrbb just explained the last 6 weeks of my life rebuilding the top end of my bike after dunking it
early April. From first hand experience I can tell you it's amazing the damage a little water can do
immediately when it gets inside.

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https://youtu.be/rCHJXpcDfn4 I'm. It sure if the link will work but if it doesn't I posted it on YouTube just type in 2017 honda foreman knock I'm sure there isn't many but the username is 4957davis


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