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MET1288 · 02-09-2012, 07:46 PM

Wingman,

I don't have any knowledge of it being apart before, but can't say for sure it wasn't. It looked like an OEM gasket to me but that doesn't mean it hasn't been apart. With the help of Mr. Rich, I identified the mystery washer and I'm pretty sure it fell there when I took the cover off.

I had some time today and took the entire centrifugal clutch apart. Believe it or not everything looks good. The opposite side of the weights had the same abrasion marks, almost like they were "cleaned up" after being lined. The drum looks remarkably good as well.

If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for a good used centrifugal clutch? As for the change clutch disks, Mr. Rich helped me there too and shipped me what I needed today. (Thanks again Rich!)

rich450es · 02-09-2012, 07:53 PM

anytime man ! allways like to help out a new member (to he!! with all the old ones lol) i looked at that 300 centrifugal clutch today and it had almost the same markes on it . i think its just from mechining like you said

MET1288 · 02-10-2012, 04:23 PM

Ok here's the latest update. I got my caliper back and took to measuring. Everything checks out to be within the service limits. The two biggest findings were the broken ring gear on the clutch basket and dirty/siezed clutch disks. I actually had to separate the disks/plates with a screwdriver. I think this is due to being run with dirty oil (overdue for a change) that was down at/under the add mark at higher speeds/RPM's. I would hazzard a guess that the clutch disks froze and weren't releasing right and that lead to the rest. The kid driving it when it started making noise was running it through the gears quicky on a "course" around a small field. So, with any luck the clutch basket was the weak link. Hopefully with the new parts and a thorough maintenance session, it'll be good to go!

Thanks for all the help so far!

MET1288 · 02-22-2012, 09:32 AM

Soooo... I finally received a tracking number for my parts order after 10 days! Looks like they should arrive via snail-back some time Monday! So, I guess I'll have to stick to destroying other things until then!

rich450es · 02-22-2012, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MET1288

Soooo... I finally received a tracking number for my parts order after 10 days! Looks like they should arrive via snail-back some time Monday! So, I guess I'll have to stick to destroying other things until then!

was that the parts i sent you ? or from a online parts house ?

MET1288 · 02-22-2012, 10:00 AM

Darn Rich.... the parts you sent me have been all cleaned up and ready to go for over a week...LOL

I ordered a bunch of small stuff like the gasket, o-rings, clutch adjuster, and a shift guide plate from an online parts house. Figured there's no reason to slack and I might as well cover all the small stuff while I'm in this deep. I'm not good at waiting. I called them to follow up yesterday and the parts were magically shipped within the hour!

02-09-2012, 07:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
rich450es Honda Red Wing Rider Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ludlow,mass Posts: 10,524	anytime man ! allways like to help out a new member (to he!! with all the old ones lol) i looked at that 300 centrifugal clutch today and it had almost the same markes on it . i think its just from mechining like you said __________________ 2000 foreman 450 es-s the fking pig 14% 300 foretrax gear reduction 30in gorila silverbacks on C-5 wheels 2500lb warn winch superatv disk brake conversion kit 2in ssatv lift kit and progressive 512 shocks the original 4in PVC storage tube hurculined racks with rear cargo box czr loud exhaust , uni airfilter and drilled main jet foreman 450 parts for sale pm me for info**

02-09-2012, 07:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
MET1288 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Glen Rock, PA Posts: 15	Wingman, I don't have any knowledge of it being apart before, but can't say for sure it wasn't. It looked like an OEM gasket to me but that doesn't mean it hasn't been apart. With the help of Mr. Rich, I identified the mystery washer and I'm pretty sure it fell there when I took the cover off. I had some time today and took the entire centrifugal clutch apart. Believe it or not everything looks good. The opposite side of the weights had the same abrasion marks, almost like they were "cleaned up" after being lined. The drum looks remarkably good as well. If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for a good used centrifugal clutch? As for the change clutch disks, Mr. Rich helped me there too and shipped me what I needed today. (Thanks again Rich!)

02-10-2012, 04:23 PM	#23 (permalink)
MET1288 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Glen Rock, PA Posts: 15	Ok here's the latest update. I got my caliper back and took to measuring. Everything checks out to be within the service limits. The two biggest findings were the broken ring gear on the clutch basket and dirty/siezed clutch disks. I actually had to separate the disks/plates with a screwdriver. I think this is due to being run with dirty oil (overdue for a change) that was down at/under the add mark at higher speeds/RPM's. I would hazzard a guess that the clutch disks froze and weren't releasing right and that lead to the rest. The kid driving it when it started making noise was running it through the gears quicky on a "course" around a small field. So, with any luck the clutch basket was the weak link. Hopefully with the new parts and a thorough maintenance session, it'll be good to go! Thanks for all the help so far!

02-22-2012, 09:32 AM	#24 (permalink)
MET1288 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Glen Rock, PA Posts: 15	Soooo... I finally received a tracking number for my parts order after 10 days! Looks like they should arrive via snail-back some time Monday! So, I guess I'll have to stick to destroying other things until then!

02-22-2012, 10:00 AM	#26 (permalink)
MET1288 Honda Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Glen Rock, PA Posts: 15	Darn Rich.... the parts you sent me have been all cleaned up and ready to go for over a week...LOL I ordered a bunch of small stuff like the gasket, o-rings, clutch adjuster, and a shift guide plate from an online parts house. Figured there's no reason to slack and I might as well cover all the small stuff while I'm in this deep. I'm not good at waiting. I called them to follow up yesterday and the parts were magically shipped within the hour!

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