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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-02-2009, 05:08 PM Thread Starter
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I need some help folks I just bought a 02 foreman 450es two days ago got it for 500 just because it would not shift. it will take 1st no problems but when you try to go to second in will not shift even with the manual shifter you can hear the motor trying to shift but it will not go. I also read some where that the clutch could have something to do with this I tried to adjust the clutch and the adjustment screw will not move. any help would be greatly appriciated the wife is done made about buying another toy so trying to keep the cost down as much as i can Thanks but the way when I try to shift the gear indicator is not flashing but I did watch it flash 8 times the first night I got it
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-02-2009, 05:43 PM
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Welcome to the forum.

Will it shift into reverse? Not shifting manually makes it a mechanical problem. It more than likely is the bolt came loose or broke on the shift drum or the shift plate broke/cracked. Both are cheap parts to replace but require the front engine cover and clutches to be removed.



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[ yeah it will shift into reverse
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any one got any diagrams of the shift plate and how hard is this going to be to take out? I have built several topends but never messed with the bottom. still trying to figure out why it will manualy go in first but not second any ideas
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With it shifting into reverse also I'm going to put a pretty solid guess the bolt came loose on the shift drum. Cheap fix if it is, besides the tear down and gasket just a little loctite. I can get some diagrams up after awhile here to help with the repair.



2007 420FM (475cc, 27x12x12 Mudbugs) ---------- 1995 300FW (webcamshaft, 350 rear end)
2008 420FE (26x9x12 BearClaws) -------------------
1988 300 (old stock machine, nothing fancy)
2009 420FA (25x8/10x12 BearClaw HTR) ---------
1987 350D (work in progress)

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post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-03-2009, 11:37 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks thats what the honda mech. told me this morning I think I can do it when I get a diagram
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post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-03-2009, 03:34 PM
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Here are a few sections out of the manual, it jumps around to much to give the complete procedure easily. The bolt in the first pic is the one that comes loose.








2007 420FM (475cc, 27x12x12 Mudbugs) ---------- 1995 300FW (webcamshaft, 350 rear end)
2008 420FE (26x9x12 BearClaws) -------------------
1988 300 (old stock machine, nothing fancy)
2009 420FA (25x8/10x12 BearClaw HTR) ---------
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got it fixed thanks for the help the bolt had backed off the shift drum about a quater of an inch. everything is working great!
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post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-04-2009, 02:27 PM
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Good to hear, cheap fixes are the best.



2007 420FM (475cc, 27x12x12 Mudbugs) ---------- 1995 300FW (webcamshaft, 350 rear end)
2008 420FE (26x9x12 BearClaws) -------------------
1988 300 (old stock machine, nothing fancy)
2009 420FA (25x8/10x12 BearClaw HTR) ---------
1987 350D (work in progress)

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Question location question

I found this info,, and i believe its the same problem that I have on my 2004 450ES Foreman.
I just need to know where this is located? Is it behind a cover on the front of the motor, or the side? Many thanks.

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Here are a few sections out of the manual, it jumps around to much to give the complete procedure easily. The bolt in the first pic is the one that comes loose.





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