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Old 04-06-2010, 07:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've recently been fortunate enough to get my hands an old honda bigred 400 (4x4)

I am trying to determine what year/model it is exactly so that I can start sourcing parts (front end CV's are completely cactus for a start)

We stripped down the plastics & bars to try to find a manufacturers plate so that we could determine year/model etc.

I've been foraging around the net & trying to google imgs to locate what year/model I have, so far I am leaning towards it being a '95, though at this point I am still unsure & would be very grateful for anyone who can assist.

other than the grey seat, the '4x4' decals on the side, the 'big red' on the tank, there is little to help identify it.

I found mention of a serial number being under the air filter in the airbox, & another mention of it being on the goose neck, 3 of pawing over the entire chassis were unable to find anything.

would be most grateful for a nudge in the right direction so that we can being on the path of refurbishing this unit.

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Old 04-06-2010, 08:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If it is a foreman 400, the Vin # will be located just behind the front bumper. Follow the middle bumper mounts back to the frame, there is a flate plate that the bumper attaches to, it's about an 1'' wide. the Vin will be on the plate.

Never heard of one being called a Big Red 400, unless someone just added a sticker to it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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previous owner told me it's a 400
i haven't found anything to indicate as such

he was thinking it was an '84 or even '82

at this point in time, I am unfamiliar with the either the years of release nor the characteristics of each to be able to recognise one from the other.

was hoping to find some people from whom I could pick their brains on the subject.

many thanks for the assistance, I will try to get some photos up (to make it easier) tonight or tomorrow.

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Old 04-07-2010, 03:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes photos would help.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Im sitting here with a Honda Identification guide in front of me and from what I can tell they didnt put a gray seat on any of the 400 foremans.
The do have gray seats on the 87-89 350 foremans and 88-94 300 Foremans.
This is of course that your seat cover is the original one.
Im thinking since you mentioned it having 4x4 on the side that you have a 350 Foreman because all of the 300 foremans have the large 4x4 going over the rear plastics.
Im guessing you have a 87-89 350 foreman.
Is the petcock for your fuel screwed to the bottom of the tank or is it mounted in the plastics?
If only you had the vin #I could tell you exactly what it is with this book.

FWIW the absolute oldest it could possibly be is a 86.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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sorry about the delay ( I am time-poor)
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Wingman, I think you might be on to something...

we had just started the takedown & I realised I didn't have any pics, you can see the seat is already off but is grey & I am assuming the original

the small bar on the rear rack is an add-on, obviously not standard.
apologies for the quality of the photos, (done in haste with a phone).
the front rack isn't bent, just half off when i remembered to take a snap & didn't realign it properly

there were some decals going over the rear plastics, not sure what they said, (too worn to decypher).

I hit the whole thing with some degreaser & a hot-wash over the weekend, found a few repair issues, but nothing major & a bit of attention wont fix.
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the foremans had the engine mounted longitudally with the frame, the axles were drivin off a single shaft with an end comin out the front and rear, it apperes that youres is mounted transversely. with a single output and a 90 degree gearset with a shaft running to the front, i may have seen youre picture wrong, but heres a link to a machine that looks similar to yours.

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1788632/
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You have a 300 Fourtrax (in the states) and I would say a 92 or older but that can be very different for you. I think everyone goes off of the 10th digit of the VIN for the year so that will help for that.
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any idea on where i should be looking for a VIN given the model you believe it to be?

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Old 04-12-2010, 05:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The Big Red on the Gas tank is really weird cause none of the foremans I have in my book have it and it looks like it is factory ?
I even looked up the ATC Big Reds and none of them had that decal on the gas tank either! It must be some kinda Australian only type model?
But from comparing to everything else Im gonna say you have a 1991 300 Fourtrax 4x4 and the stickers that went over the back fenders were large and said 4x4.
You should be able to locate the vins where the front bumper upper mounts bolt up to the frame. It might be kinda difficult to see them with the front plastics on tho.
Another suggestion, And im not sure if this holds true to all models? Buttake a look at the numbers on your rims,the last four digits tell what month and year your rims were made i.e. My 2004 Rubicon rims say 08 03 meaning they were made in august of 2003. Yours should read 90 or 91 because they changed the tires and rim style in 92.I dont know about Australia models but ill give you the run down as to why I believe it to be a 1991.
The first 300 made was in 88. (and it didnt have a front rack)
They didnt make one in 89. (atleast not in the states)
The 1990 only came in blue plastics.
The 1991 was the first year they came in red w/ detachable black outer mudflaps and was the last year they had the rims that are currently on your machine.
You need to find them vins and let me know if my prediction is right? lol

All in all other than the rims and tires on the 1992 the book doesnt show any changes I think you be safe using parts from 90-92 machines.

Find them Vins!
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